thanks pedro for the explanation:<br><br><span id="result_box" class="long_text" lang="en"><span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">I</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">agree</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">it's</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">a</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">hardware problem</span><span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives">,</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">to find</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">the</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">exact</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">configuration</span><span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives">.</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">mail</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">lists</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">are</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">a</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">great</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">way</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">to</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">see</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">the</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">problem</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">from another perspective,</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">for</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">example,</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">I never thought</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">to increase</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">the</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">rate</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">to 48000</span><span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives">,</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">if</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">a</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">smaller number</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">gave</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">problems</span><br>
<br> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">a good</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">solution</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">to the difference</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">between computers</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">could</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">be</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">used</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">in</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">all</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">the</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">same</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">audio</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">card</span><span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives">,</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">but</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">I think</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">it</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">is</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">a</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">utopia</span><span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives">.</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">Does anyone have</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">experience</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">in</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">this</span> <span title="Feu clic per obtenir traduccions alternatives" class="hps">regard?</span></span><br>
<br>my solution is: with sudo without rt patch <br><br>1. jackd -R -P14 -dalsa -dhw:0 -r48000 -p2048 -n4 -P<br>
2. emacs -sclang<br>
3. pdextended -jack -channels 2 -r 48000<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/30 Pedro Lopes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pedro.lopes@ist.utl.pt">pedro.lopes@ist.utl.pt</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I use both in Karmic (patched with rt) on a cheap Toshiba AMD Dual core and Maverick (no patch yet) on a stronger dual core VAIO.<div><br></div><div>Now some considerations:</div><div>- on Toshiba (weakest link)></div>
<div>
- with on board card, I set the qjackctl values such as the latency rises a bit, but stays stable without DIO errors or xruns (as jack call's it). The rate is set at 44.1k, but is not what drives latency the most. The buffer size and period will determine the latency value (on the down-right corner qjackctl predicts the latency). I use about 1024 or 2048 samples on the buffer length and a 3 period. Yes I know its high, but its hyper stable.</div>
<div> - with a simple USB card (H4 recorder) I can really lower the latency a lot, I can usually manage it down to 20ms and remain really stable without DIO and xruns.</div><div><br></div><div>- on VAIO (strongest link) </div>
<div> - the computer is so fast that even with onboard sound card and without rt I can run jack + pd + sc with an acceptable latency. I just installed sc to test both systems in parallel, runned a couple of sc140 code in parallel, and some of my medium load pd patches, also started up moc player, all with 30 ms of latency and without any DIO or xrun. So it all depends on a lot of hardware capabilities and of course some fine tuning of your jack + soundcard settings. Attached is an image of pd + sc on maverick in my VAIO.</div>
<div><br></div><div>best regards</div><div>Pedro</div><div>p.s.: note on the image that although qjack is running with jack realtime enabled but the kernel is not patched for rt. </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 1:04 PM, oskoff lovich <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:noishx@gmail.com" target="_blank">noishx@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Miquel and all,<br>sometimes i used sc and puredata with jackd <br><br>and they work very good,, <br>
<br>with ubuntu karmic koala 9.10 in a cheap acer laptop<br>
<br>i usually open first jack at 48000 sample rate, <br>then supercollider and after pd -jack <br>
<br>maybe is a problem with diferent sample rate options <br>or try with diferents settings of jack ( on/off realtime ect)<br><br>salut!<br><br><br><br><br>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz<br><pre>Hello.
I use pd plus sc in puredyne and maverick. The OSC communication is fine and
fast, but the audio in puredata is plenty of dio errors.
I have tried many combinations of command line options, with jackd and with
pd.
I have compiled and jackd and puredata.
Someone is using these two environments, whitou audio problems? How? In what
operating system? With that computer?
Thanks.
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