Ugh.<br><br>The audio drama in Ubuntu continues......<br><br>I've never actually used any other distro than Ubuntu.<br><br>How are the other ones handling audio? (Pure dyne, AVLinux, Fedora, etc...)<br><br>Do they use pulse audio as well?<br>
<br>-Aaron<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at">hans@at.or.at</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:13 AM, Kim Cascone wrote:<br>
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On 01/02/2011 08:31 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:<br>
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Your best bet is to use the default preferences, i.e. remove ~/.pdextended.<br>
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OK I'll try this<br>
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For example, you need to first load the 'libdir' library in order to load the rest.<br>
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libdir is the first lib listed in the startup list<br>
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If you want to maintain a custom ~/.pdextended, then use the included preferences in /usr/lib/pd-extended/default.pdextended.<br>
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I just want to use the .pdsettings file I was using -- at least all my old paths are listed there so I'm fairly certain I was using this<br>
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I think the best way to manage preferences is to embed them into the patch itself, i.e. using [import], [declare].<br>
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not sure I follow...if my paths are declared in a patch how can I call an external from a lib that is being used by that same patch? wouldn't it be better to have everything (externals, libs etc) load in at app launch?<br>
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If a lib uses another lib, then it should also load it. I usually use namespace prefixes in that case, i.e. [ggee/getdir] or [zexy/makesymbol].<br>
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For audio and midi settings see these help patches in the Help Browser:<br>
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hcs -> get-audio-dialog-help.pd<br>
hcs -> get-midi-dialog-help.pd<br>
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But I must confess, I almost always use the built-in audio on my laptop, so my setup is quite simple.<br>
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yeah I did as well and only used Jack when talking to my USB audio card<br>
but now since the ALSA OSS emulation layer is no longer in the kernel I suppose I'll need to use Jack for everything - which is not a problem just have to get in the habit of using Jack to point to my various devices<br>
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question: if there is no longer an ALSA OSS emulation layer in the kernel and never was ALSA support<br>
why does the GUI still have OSS and ALSA as selections in the pull down menu?<br>
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On Jan 2, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:<br>
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I am now just getting back into pd mode since Sept<br>
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and I just recently upgraded Ubuntu from 9.04 -> 10.10<br>
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which needed a kernel broadcom wifi driver tweak<br>
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I installed the 'PD-0.42.5-extended-20101205' using the .deb package<br>
(because it works perfectly on my Dell mini9 (which I use as a test sandbox))<br>
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I tested all my Linux audio apps on Ubuntu 10.10<br>
(my config is in the sig at the end of this email)<br>
and every one checked out OK<br>
except for baudline which wasn't working with ALSA<br>
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the reason it wasn't working with ALSA - as related to me by the developer - was that<br>
'Ubuntu 10.10 removed kernel ALSA OSS emulation' but baudline does work with Jack'<br>
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so I'm having a lot of problems getting Pd set up the way it was on my 9.04 system<br>
which was working fine up until my upgrade<br>
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I have a few questions related to problems that are causing much confusion:<br>
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problem #1:<br>
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no audio via ALSA<br>
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- I open the Audio Settings panel, point my settings to my USB card, click save, apply<br>
- open and start the Test Audio patch<br>
- there is no audio<br>
- the console doesn't say anything about trying to find or connect to an audio device<br>
- re-open the Audio settings panel and the settings are all switched back to my 'nanokontrol'<br>
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the ~/.pdextended file says:<br>
noaudioin: True<br>
noaudioout: True<br>
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I try the same procedure with Jack and there is audio<br>
and ALSA midi also seems to work fine<br>
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is there a problem with ALSA and Pd now due to the removal of ALSA OSS emulation?<br>
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problem #2:<br>
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Libraries are not loading<br>
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- all the libraries that were installed with 0.42.5 are not found even though they are listed in the .pdextended file<br>
- I read on the Pd FAQ page that '.pdextended' is the file where all the paths are stored<br>
but I was using Pd extended in my studio and all my paths (I think) were in the '.pdsettings' file which supposedly was used only by the pd plain vanilla version<br>
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- was there a change made to the settings file name between Sept and now?<br>
- and is there a simpler way of re-constituting my paths other than doing it by hand?<br>
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can someone point me to something that can bring me up to date on changes since Sept?<br>
a change log or something?<br>
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any/all help is very appreciated!!<br>
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oh yeah, happy new year!<br>
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*my Linux audio perf config:*<br>
Dell Studio 15 Core2 Duo 2.0GHz 3G-RAM<br>
Ubuntu 10.10<br>
kernel 2.6.35-24-generic<br>
jackd version jackdmp 1.9.6<br>
Ardour 2.8.11<br>
Pd version 0.42.5-extended<br>
USB iMic audio interface<br>
Korg nanoKontrol<br>
cpufreq-set - both cpu's are set to 2.0GHz and userspace<br>
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