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Same synthesis capabilities, chuck or supercollider (less real-time, csound)<div>Similar graphic capabilities... Processing</div><div><br></div><div>Although I've got to agree. once you've gotten over infamiliarity the data-flow interface of Pd is definately one of it's greatest strengths. As with any language you've got to learn some syntax before learning to use it fluently. However, it's a good instant-use language. With the code operating in the same environment in which it's produced and edited. Meaning you can observe your code and debug without changing window, re-initialzing, compiling, bulding test methods or any other work-flow road-blocks like this. </div><div><br></div><div>In short, the graphic interface is one of the great unique selling points of PD (and the rather more expensive maxMSP) and it's a valuable tool once you know how to use it.</div><div><br></div><div>It's also worth noting that it is possible to edit pd patches in a text editor, however this is a set of instructions for the placement of objects on-screen and is definitely not human readable. </div><div><br></div><div>Andrew</div><div> <br><br>> To: pd-list@iem.at; lsutton@libero.it<br>> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:57:24 +0100<br>> From: jmmmpais@googlemail.com<br>> Subject: Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?<br>> <br>> there's also pdlua, which is much easier to build than py. if you want to <br>> learn lua, it works well. the package brings some example patches. <br>> http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/cm/2008-06-19_pdlua-0.5_released.html<br>> <br>> > HI,<br>> ><br>> > Morgan Packard wrote:<br>> >> Hello there.<br>> >> I'm interested in using PD. However, as someone who spends a lot of <br>> >> time with code, I'm actually a little afraid of the learning curve <br>> >> involved with the graphical programming language! I'd be much more <br>> >> comfortable creating my patches using, for example, a Python tool. Does <br>> >> such a programmatic PD patch generation tool exist? I can't imagine I'm <br>> >> the first person who's wanted such a thing.<br>> > People will probably point you to csound or supercollider for your first <br>> > statement... Anyway the curve is not really so steep, dataflow is of <br>> > course a slightly different mindset, although if you are skilled at <br>> > coding that will nevertheless prove benefical.<br>> ><br>> > Regarding python, you might have a look at py/pyext [1]. I couldn't <br>> > successfully have it setup in Ubuntu, because it is strongly tied to a <br>> > particular python version. Something more 'flexible' IMHO would be nice, <br>> > ideally running directly within pd would be really nice, even at the <br>> > level of non-dsp abstractions to begin with (similarly to javscript in <br>> > MAX)... But this doesn't seem to be of much interest currently.<br>> ><br>> > Lorenzo<br>> ><br>> > [1] http://puredata.info/Members/thomas/py/<br>> >> thanks,<br>> >> -Morgan<br>> >><br>> >> -- ================================<br>> >> Web:<br>> >> http://www.morganpackard.com<br>> >><br>> >> Music/Art:<br>> >> Latest album: Moment Again Elsewhere <br>> >> <http://www.anticipaterecordings.com/releases/ANT_011/index.php><br>> >> iOS app Thicket <br>> >> <http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/thicket/id364824621?mt=8>available on <br>> >> iTunes store.<br>> >> ================================<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list<br>> >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <br>> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list<br>> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <br>> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list<br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> Friedenstr. 58<br>> 10249 Berlin (Deutschland)<br>> Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570<br>> Studio +49 30 69509190<br>> jmmmpais@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list<br>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list<br></div> </body>
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