<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div> It&#39;s not inferred-- it&#39;s stated directly as point #2 on the "Order of Operations" part, then reiterated:<br />"The application of these concepts appears frequently in Pd code."<br /><br />Plus there&#39;s a whole section devoted to connection order that reads like a "how to" guide for patching by depending on the order in which the connections were made.<br /><br />Pd-ext should do multiple connections from an outlet in the reverse order from Vanilla, with the most recent connection sending data first, so that the only thing anyone can ever say about mutiple connections from one outlet is that they are used when you don&#39;t care about the order of those operations.<br /><br />-Jonathan<br /></div></td></tr></table>            <div id="_origMsg_">
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                                        <td valign="top" style="font:inherit;">Perhaps the wording of that section should more clearly state that creation order cannot be relied on, rather than inferring that one can use it as a proper way of patching. I would be very happy if someone wanted to have a look at that chapter and clarify things.<BR><BR>Best!<BR>Derek<BR><BR>On 2/9/11 8:52 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;&gt; The FLOSS manual says that the order you hook things up in part determines<BR>&gt;&gt; the order they do things.&nbsp; But I can't make that make a difference.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Just forget completely about this. The order you create connections matters in<BR>&gt; reality, but never, ever rely on it when patching. Treat every patch as if<BR>&gt; someone else created it and as if you'd have no idea, what order he made the<BR>&gt; connections.<BR><BR>-- ::: derek holzer ::: <a href="http://macumbista.net" target=_blank
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