Once again, I(we've discussed this before) it seems that there is an urgent name/concept-convention need. <div><br></div><div>Just brainstorming, but a nice exercise would be:</div><div><br></div><div>concept meaning dev user some thoughts</div>
<div>abstraction ? ? ? (seems the most easy one)</div><div>class ? ? ? (should be a class definition?)</div><div>object ? ? ? (corresponds to a visual object in the gui? no matter if it is external or abstraction?)</div>
<div>external ? ? ? (seems easy too)</div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><br><br></div><div>best regards,</div><div>Pedro</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Mathieu Bouchard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matju@artengine.ca">matju@artengine.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:<br>
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A false dichotomy is made between abstractions and externals.<br>
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Such a false dichotomy is also used on the front page of <a href="http://puredata.info/" target="_blank">http://puredata.info/</a> :<br>
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« It is easy to extend Pd by writing object classes ("externals") or<br>
patches ("abstractions"). »<br>
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I say that even though at the implementation level, abstractions aren't classes, for the user, it works like a class.<br>
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Also there are many externals that don't include abstractions but are nonetheless compatible with Pd vanilla.<br>
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What part of the text are you referring to, in particular ?<br>
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BTW, <a href="http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/Abstractions" target="_blank">http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/Abstractions</a> talks about "external patches", but given how "external" is being overwhelmingly used with a totally different meaning in Pd. (are newbies supposed to have to guess ?)<br>
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"word or symbol" creates a false dichotomy.<br>
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what about the occurrence of "selector-word" in the Messages page ?<br>
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Also: it isn't made clear what is special about list messages as opposed to, say, blueberry messages, which I define as starting with the word blueberry followed by zero or more atoms*.<br>
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mmm, blueberries. :)<br>
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