<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div>How can you say that segmented patch cords are bad 95% of the time when they are not even available in Pd 100% of the time?<br /><br />Just to take Miller's "Techniques" as an example, if there were segmented patch cords then all of his horizontal connections could be made unambiguous by having about 5px of vertical cord segment directly above the inlet.<br /><br />Also, I've never seen you complain about any of the ASCII art on the this list, which often (surely more than 5% of the time) uses "-" and "|" at 90-degree angles and "+" to make segmented patch cords.<br /><br />-Jonathan</div></td></tr></table> <div id="_origMsg_">
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<td valign="top" style="font:inherit;"><br><div><div>On Feb 19, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;">This made me think of a help to revealing (2). If an interface<br> were to have hover-over tooltips, as has been discussed at times<br> for outlets/inlets, then a cable could reveal its creation<br> order on hover.<br> <br> It wouldn't obviate triggers, but would make a nice debugging<br> feature.<br><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>+1</div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px
0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;orphans:2;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><br></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px 0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;orphans:2;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;">I don't think the connection order should be exposed. I really think that the GUI should not encourage bad programming practice. Its also this same reason why I think that 95% of the time,
segmented patch cords are bad.</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px 0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;orphans:2;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><br></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px 0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;orphans:2;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;">But yes, tooltips showing what messages an inlet expects would be great
to have. Check out the l2ork distro for the new version of J.Sarlo's magic glass cord inspector.</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px 0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;orphans:2;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><br></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px 0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;orphans:2;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span"
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