Hi Nick,<div>good to know, but this is just a workaround.</div><div>That command line changes the font-face which Pd will use.</div><div><br></div><div>Looking for the xfont error log you have posted I found this thread:</div>
<div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><a href="http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2005-05/2360.html">http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2005-05/2360.html</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>A similar error has been solved --dpkg purge(ing) and apt-get install(ing) two font packages.</div><div>If I&#39;m not wrong the Pd default font is ttf-bitstream-vera, I guess there could be something wrong in your font configuration.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Although, I don&#39;t understand why it causes your Pd to crash only with cntrl and flext.</div><div>Anyone?</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Marco</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Nick Burge <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nburge@virginmedia.com">nburge@virginmedia.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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    Yes....that&#39;s it. The patch loads fine now. I guess I should add the
    &quot;-font-face Monaco&quot; flag to the startup settings.<br>
    Can you explain why this makes it work?<br>
    Thanks very much for your help.<br><font color="#888888">
    Nick</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
    <br>
    On 02/28/2011 01:28 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
    <blockquote type="cite">Hi Nick,
      <div>I see. Thanks for the info.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Could you try to start Pd from the terminal with:</div>
      <div>pdextended -font-face Monaco</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>It seems hard to find the problem. I saw you wrote on the
        list, did anybody replied?</div>
      <div>If not, I&#39;ll write too. I&#39;m sorry but I&#39;m a bit clueless at
        the moment, but I use to run the patch on several Ubuntu
        machines and never encountered this problem before.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Best,</div>
      <div>Marco</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Nick
          Burge <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nburge@virginmedia.com" target="_blank">nburge@virginmedia.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Hi Marco, I
              uninstalled compiz in synaptic but the crash is still
              happening. Yes, I can bang the other bangs and I see the
              help patches no problem. The graphic card is G86 nvidia
              GEforce 8400m G<br>
              The only time I had a crash like this was when trying to
              use Thomas Grills flext based external Xsample.<br>
              Otherwise PD behaves in a very stable manner. <br>
              The font issue may well be the cause, but that is just a
              sort of hunch of mine.<br>
              Many thanks for your interest and support in this problem<br>
              <font color="#888888"> Nick</font>
              <div>
                <div><br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  On 02/23/2011 01:01 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
                  <blockquote type="cite">Ok, if you have Compiz
                    enabled, could you try to disable it and run again
                    CNTRL from the terminal?<br>
                    <br>
                    <div>Are you able to bang the other [bangs] in the
                      splash screen and see the related popup
                      subpatches?<br>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Which graphic card do you have?</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>It seems something related to the font Pd
                        look for, but can&#39;t find useful info about it.
                        I&#39;ll keep on looking.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Can you normally use Pd with no problem?</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Thanks,</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Best,</div>
                      <div>Marco</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div><br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at
                          9:02 PM, Nick Burge <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nburge@virginmedia.com" target="_blank">nburge@virginmedia.com</a>&gt;</span>
                          wrote:<br>
                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
                            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Hi
                              Marco....I tried the -noloadbang flag, but
                              the crash actually occurs when I click the
                              big bang button on the splash screen to
                              open the main C[]NTR[]L patch.<br>
                              Any ideas much appreciated.<br>
                              <font color="#888888"> Nick</font>
                              <div>
                                <div><br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  On 02/22/2011 06:07 PM, Marco
                                  Donnarumma wrote:
                                  <blockquote type="cite">Hi Nick,
                                    <div>thanks for your feedback, much
                                      appreciated.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>I run the software on Ubuntu
                                      Lucid Lynx with no problem.</div>
                                    <div>Indeed, the log you posted
                                      seems to be something X11 related,
                                      even though at the moment we
                                      cannot exclude it&#39;s CNTRL doing
                                      something that your system does
                                      not like.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Could you try to run CNTRL in
                                      the terminal with the flag
                                      -noloadbang?</div>
                                    <div>Perhaps there are some
                                      initialization parameters which
                                      conflict with some settings of
                                      your system.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div> Thanks,</div>
                                    <div>Best wishes,</div>
                                    <div>Marco</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                      <br>
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon,
                                        Feb 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Nick
                                        Burge <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nburge@virginmedia.com" target="_blank">nburge@virginmedia.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                        wrote:<br>
                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
                                          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> btw,
                                            running pd extended in a
                                            terminal I get the following
                                            error when it crashes
                                            out....<br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            X Error of failed request: 
                                            BadAlloc (insufficient
                                            resources for operation)<br>
                                              Major opcode of failed
                                            request:  45 (X_OpenFont)<br>
                                              Serial number of failed
                                            request:  22074<br>
                                              Current serial number in
                                            output stream:  22075<br>
                                            recv: Connection reset by
                                            peer (104)<br>
                                            <br>
                                            best Nick.
                                            <div>
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                                                      <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Subject: </th>
                                                      <td>c:ntr:l</td>
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                                                      <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
                                                      <td>Mon, 21 Feb
                                                        2011 11:49:50
                                                        +0000</td>
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                                                      <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
                                                      <td>Nick Burge <a href="mailto:tectp@telefonica.net" target="_blank">&lt;tectp@telefonica.net&gt;</a></td>
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                                                      <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
                                                      <td><a href="mailto:devel@thesaddj.com" target="_blank">devel@thesaddj.com</a></td>
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                                                <pre>Hello Marco, congratulations on your interesting and beautifully 
documented project Xth sense.
I&#39;m interested in trying to get C:NTR:l running on my ubuntu 10.04 
laptop system, but trying to start the patch crashes PD and causes it to 
close immediately.
Do you know of anyone running it on a comparable system?
best regards, Nick Burge.


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                                      <br>
                                      -- <br>
                                      Marco Donnarumma<br>
                                      Independent New Media and Sonic
                                      Arts Professional, Performer,
                                      Instructor<br>
                                      ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research
                                      (ongoing)<br>
                                      The University of Edinburgh, UK<br>
                                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
                                      Portfolio: <a href="http://marcodonnarumma.com/" target="_blank">http://marcodonnarumma.com</a><br>
                                      Lab: <a href="http://www.thesaddj.com/" target="_blank">http://www.thesaddj.com</a> | <a href="http://cntrl.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://cntrl.sourceforge.net</a> | <a href="http://www.flxer.net/" target="_blank">http://www.flxer.net</a><br>

                                      Event: <a href="http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/" target="_blank">http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net</a><br>
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                        <br>
                        -- <br>
                        Marco Donnarumma<br>
                        Independent New Media and Sonic Arts
                        Professional, Performer, Instructor<br>
                        ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)<br>
                        The University of Edinburgh, UK<br>
                        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
                        Portfolio: <a href="http://marcodonnarumma.com/" target="_blank">http://marcodonnarumma.com</a><br>
                        Lab: <a href="http://www.thesaddj.com/" target="_blank">http://www.thesaddj.com</a> | <a href="http://cntrl.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://cntrl.sourceforge.net</a> | <a href="http://www.flxer.net/" target="_blank">http://www.flxer.net</a><br>

                        Event: <a href="http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/" target="_blank">http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net</a><br>
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        <br>
        -- <br>
        Marco Donnarumma<br>
        Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer,
        Instructor<br>
        ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)<br>
        The University of Edinburgh, UK<br>
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
        Portfolio: <a href="http://marcodonnarumma.com/" target="_blank">http://marcodonnarumma.com</a><br>
        Lab: <a href="http://www.thesaddj.com/" target="_blank">http://www.thesaddj.com</a> | <a href="http://cntrl.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://cntrl.sourceforge.net</a> | <a href="http://www.flxer.net/" target="_blank">http://www.flxer.net</a><br>

        Event: <a href="http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/" target="_blank">http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net</a><br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Marco Donnarumma<br>Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer, Instructor<br>ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)<br>The University of Edinburgh, UK<br>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>Portfolio: <a href="http://marcodonnarumma.com/" target="_blank">http://marcodonnarumma.com</a><br>Lab: <a href="http://www.thesaddj.com/" target="_blank">http://www.thesaddj.com</a> | <a href="http://cntrl.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://cntrl.sourceforge.net</a> | <a href="http://www.flxer.net/" target="_blank">http://www.flxer.net</a><br>
Event: <a href="http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/" target="_blank">http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net</a><br>
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