<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I know, sucking of said life happens often on a list like this, but I'm just challenging <br>you based on the definition of the term offered on this thread.<br><br>Pd is not a technological parody, but the patch to which I referred is. If it seems suitable <br>to call one thing by this term because we want to deride it, but not another thing to which <br>it applies because we like and use it, then the term doesn't help further the discourse. <br>That's what I mean by "ideological"-- a very general sense of the word.<br><br>Also, I do think I'm on point with regard to locked-down-proprietary vs. free/open. I mean <br>I could turn it around by imagining someone taking B07.sampler.pd on a small form factor <br>machine with DRM and hooking up some kind of turntable controller so you could scratch <br>"continuous soft music" till your heart's
content, but that's all. That would be equally as <br>stupid. On the other hand, that patch is a great tutorial patch in it's current context-- <br>as someone mentioned, just start adding objects (or iemguis) and you can quickly <br>extend it to do cool things.<br><br>Or from the other end-- think of hooking up a mouse to the console where someone <br>is playing Guitar Hero, getting a pointer, then right-clicking on some part of the screen <br>that brings up the Pd abstraction responsible for outputting the song to the speakers, or <br>mapping the controller input... Ok you can't actually do that, I know, but that's the point, <br>really-- if you could it we'd be talking about free software, and technological parody or <br>no, we'd quickly be doing some cool things with that game. :)<br><br>-Jonathan<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 6/22/11, Charles Henry <i><czhenry@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16,
16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Charles Henry <czhenry@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] technological parody was: Pd performance at TED<br>To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancsika@yahoo.com>, pd-list@iem.at<br>Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 11:40 PM<br><br><div id="yiv1171673450"><div class="yiv1171673450gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=jancsika@yahoo.com">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv1171673450gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font:inherit;" valign="top">How is the guitar hero example not just an example of locked down proprietary consoles <br>vs. free software ideals?</td>
</tr></tbody></table></blockquote><div><br></div></div>I think you missed the contrast. Pd is clearly not a "technological parody", even if it looks like just a software version of patching together synthesizers/effects. That was the point. I think we're going to suck all the fun out of this expression now... I do this often enough on the list.<br>
<br>Other than that--GH is stupid. and I think that's a perfectly good reason to trash it. I selected it as the first real example of something that I think is a joke of technology.<br><br><br>
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