<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>1 - right. You can't fix this without refactoring the canvas_motion stuff in g_editor.c. I'm still not sure why these events are handled in c and not with tk bindings.<br></span></div><div><br></div><div>2 - There isn't a key combination that will delete it (and doesn't cmd-Backspace just delete the previous word anyway?). The best would be to have <ctrl-a> select all text, then you could just do <ctrl-a> and backspace.</div><div><br></div><div>3 - Hm, I never thought about that one. Btw- you also can't connect an object's outlet to one of its inlets with the mouse (though you can do it in other ways).</div><div><br></div><div>4 - Nope. There are lots of ways this could be improved. (Shift-drag for bounding box around wires instead of boxes, then Backspace, would be one way--
off the top of my head.) Elegant patch editing is not currently a part of Pd-- even the "Autopatch" feature in the "Edit" menu assumes that all objects only have a single inlet and a signal outlet.<br></div><div><br></div><div>5 - click in runmode (but there isn't any visual feedback).</div><div><br></div><div>6 - I guess you could add a key binding, but right-click and choose "Help" seems perfectly fine to me.</div><div><br></div><div>-Jonathan<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Stephen Lavelle <analytic@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> pd-list@iem.at<br><b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:16 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [PD] notes/questions from a beginner<br></font><br><div id="yiv816392849">I've tried getting into around with pd a couple of times before, this is my first concerted time. I've worked with a bunch of flow-charty programming environments in the past (Unreal Engine's kismet is the slickest I've come across - <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://odedge.com/forums/ut3_kismet_04.jpg">http://odedge.com/forums/ut3_kismet_04.jpg</a> ) - pure data is taking a bit of getting used to (most of this is due to the fact that it does special things, some things feel a bit more avoidable, other things feel frivolously subjective :P ). Here're some of the things that stuck out for me (some might be due to ignorance on my part, I'd love to have things cleared up :) ):<br>
<br>1 - Inlets/outlets too small for me to accurately click on (touchpad) - checking on pd-dev, they can be visually reskinned, but their actual clickable size can't be changed. [ so I guess this one has been responded to, but might as well repeat it ]<br>
2 - If I have an object selected (that's to say pressing buttons to edit text in it) I can't find any key-combination that will delete it - I have to deselect it, then press the mouse down on it, then, while holding the mouse button down, press backspace? (this is an uncomfortable manipulation on a laptop w/ touchpad) - on OSX at least, a shortcut like cmd+backspace would be quite idiomatic for this.<br>
3 - I can drag lines from outlets to inlets, but not from inlets to outlets.<br>4 - is there a shortcut for deleting connections? something like ctrl+click would save me a lot of time.<br>5 - is there a way to type numbers directly into a number box? clicking+dragging, or pumping them in via a message, doesn't feel good to me.<br>
6 - shortcut for opening help of selected item would be...convenient for me<br><div><br></div><div>I'm still working through the tutorials, and am enjoying the experience overall :)</div>
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