<div class="gmail_quote"><div>Good to hear your thoughts folks.</div><div>I also have some doubts about this kind of initiatives.</div><div><br></div><div>I used to work in Live in a previous windowz existence, and what appear to me as a dubious paradox is the attempt to extend a software which is purposely limited by design into the wilder field of audio programming.</div>
<div>Obviously it's easy to argue for the added capabilities and potential that Live users could benefit from, but I wonder how many of those users actually demand such potential. As it has always been said here, those who really need programming tools, will rather use them in a complete environment, than a sketched hybrid.</div>
<div>It would be interesting to know whether this idea was proposed by Live or CSound community.</div><div><br></div><div>cheers,</div><div>M</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Yeah, Csound4Live basically wraps Csound instruments and such in<br>
Max4Live using [csound~]. If [pd~] for Max gets going, you could then<br>
use Pd in Live. Though, if you already have Max, it might not seem as<br>
attractive.<br>
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.mmb<br>
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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Lorenzo Sutton <<a href="mailto:lsutton@libero.it">lsutton@libero.it</a>> wrote:<br>
> On 17/10/2011 21:42, Jeppi Jeppi wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Looks as a nice combination, Csound for great unique sound designs and<br>
>> Live for quick realtime sketches. Yep, you can do the same with Pd, even<br>
>> with bare C...but Csound is Csound...respect ;)<br>
>><br>
>> I really don't use Live at all...Csound for Pd is even cooler IMHO.<br>
><br>
> And I *think* it's using Csound for max.. so it's kinda live + max + Csound.<br>
><br>
> Lorenzo.<br>
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>> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:58:48 -0400<br>
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>> Subject: Re: [PD] OT: CSound for Live<br>
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>> Csound will never die.<br>
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>> .hc<br>
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>> On Oct 16, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:<br>
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>> ? ?any thought about this?<br>
>><br>
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>> ?<a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/10/csound-for-live-the-power-of-csound-in-ableton-with-or-without-any-coding/" target="_blank">http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/10/csound-for-live-the-power-of-csound-in-ableton-with-or-without-any-coding/</a><br>
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 19:38:04 +0200<br>
From: Charles Goyard <<a href="mailto:cg@fsck.fr">cg@fsck.fr</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [PD] help browser resize + guiplugins organization<br>
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Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:<br>
> >I'm also working on this:<br>
> ># TODO enter and up/down/left/right arrow key bindings for nav<br>
><br>
> Any luck with the key bindings for the Help Browser?<br>
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After a few unsuccessful attempts, I dropped the task. TCL is a strange<br>
language...<br>
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:12:57 -0400<br>
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at">hans@at.or.at</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [PD] Patch Contest Thread/List<br>
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Sounds great, I say do it!<br>
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On Oct 18, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Mike Moser-Booth wrote:<br>
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> +1. I think the forum is a good place for it, too. Newbies seem to<br>
> gravitate toward (or at least participate more) to the forum. I think<br>
> this would be a great way to help new users develop some chops.<br>
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> .mmb<br>
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> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:17 PM, hardoff goes bananas<br>
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>> if there is interest in this, i'd suggest the pd forum as a good<br>
>> place to<br>
>> host it.<br>
>><br>
>> i'll set it up if a few more people agree it will be a good idea.<br>
>> not every<br>
>> week though..every now and then should be fine.<br>
>><br>
>> i think it might be cool, not really as a 'competition', but more<br>
>> as a way<br>
>> to focus and see how other people approach something. The<br>
>> "compressed/chip<br>
>> patch" thread we have going now is a great example. I have had a<br>
>> lot of fun<br>
>> with that.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Tyler Leavitt <<a href="mailto:thecryoflove@gmail.com">thecryoflove@gmail.com</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hello list,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I'd always thought it'd be fun if there was a patch contest<br>
>>> similar to the<br>
>>> Fark Photoshop contest threads. Is there already something similar<br>
>>> happening<br>
>>> in the Pd community? If not, how easily could this be integrated<br>
>>> (if there<br>
>>> is enough interest) and how? Maybe it could be a sublist, like<br>
>>> [ot] or<br>
>>> [pd-announce]... or just a specific tag in the subject line. It<br>
>>> wouldn't<br>
>>> have to include the voting aspect that Fark has and it could change<br>
>>> theme/concept once a week. Is there any interest in this?<br>
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