<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>Yes, &nbsp;single-object libs like plugin~, bassemu~, etc. have it. &nbsp;Really, I think any lib should include the -meta.pd file.</div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><div><div>On Nov 15, 2011, at 4:49 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Hi Hans,</span></div><div><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Are there non-libdir libraries that do have *-meta.pd?</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>-Jonathan</span></div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Hans-Christoph Steiner &lt;<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at">hans@at.or.at</a>&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Marco Donnarumma &lt;<a href="mailto:devel@thesaddj.com">devel@thesaddj.com</a>&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:pd-list@iem.at">pd-list@iem.at</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday,
 November 15, 2011 4:35 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PD] [import] behaviour when library-meta.pd is missing<br></font><br>
<div id="yiv739969328"><div><div><br></div><div>The meta file is required for a 'libdir' library. Other custom formats like Gem's or gridflow's perhaps don't require it. &nbsp;I say lobby Tom Erbe to include the meta file, and structure soundhack like a libdir. &nbsp;I'll happy answer any questions along those lines.</div><div><br></div><div>.hc</div><br><div><div>On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:</div><br class="yiv739969328Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I imagine this is a wanted behaviour, but would like to confirm.<div><br></div><div>when using [import] to load a library which does not include the *-meta.pd file, such lib fails to be loaded.</div><div>Ubuntu Lucid, Ubuntu Studio and Mac OSX 10.6, 10.7, with Pd-ext 0.42.5.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This happens for instance with Soundhack for Pure Data.</div><div>If this is wanted, perhaps it could be handy and easy to include the&nbsp;*-meta.pd... &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Will, what do you think?</div>
<div><div><br></div><div>I'm [import]ing a couple of those externals within the Xth Sense framework, but when students download the Soudhack externals, they have to manually add the meta file.</div><div><br></div><div>
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