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A cat? <br>
You don't like the cats?<br>
however, at all times cats make what they want,<br>
as Steve Jobs...<br>
obviously he liked what he made, no?<br>
By staying only in the field of the independent persons like developer
or artist.<br>
Every day, a lot of people like what they do, I hope so.<br>
I'm perhaps wrong, but my glance is a little bit different.<br>
All people make things because they like to make it, but a little part
of them don't assume, they are "pushed and oppressed" by them even,
certainly no by what we call: the system (The market is only a part of
it).<br>
In outlines, choices are simple and do they really exist? (Choice or
capacity of adaptation or submission?)<br>
We integrate the "in" or the "out" (with reversibility).<br>
In fact, there's no "off", no "underground", no "revolution", no
"counter-revolution", no "anti...".<br>
but there's a place for the "off", it's the place for the "pushed and
oppressed" guys, they chose this place. But Offland is a part of the
Inland (we mustn't forget that...).<br>
The Outland can't have "off", can't have "underground", its revolution
is systemic, its conformity...<br>
In that case, who obeys? Everybody.<br>
In what? In what we could call, the poetry of the life.<br>
The rest is only debate of lower middle class persons fed and satisfied
whose we form also part...<br>
<br>
About production and creation,<br>
when a musician for exemple play a second time, just a second time, one
of his own opus,<br>
can one still name the result a creation?<br>
In France we call that diffusion, but with this spirit,<br>
all become production, it's certainly that what they call "the cultural
exception".<br>
A Grand Market with private and public shops, with private and public
rules,<br>
with a off and its shops too.<br>
The spirit, the sense, the arts?<br>
Search well, but you will not cross them in these places.<br>
There's no shop for dignity.<br>
Search them in your curious free and open land.<br>
Au plaisir<br>
Tad<br>
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<i><small><br>
Free and open like the software I use for acting my shit music タド</small></i><br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ydegoyon@gmail.com">ydegoyon@gmail.com</a> a écrit :
<blockquote cite="mid:4F0690AC.9070005@gmail.com" type="cite">Chris
McCormick wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">On 01/05/2012 01:04 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ydegoyon@gmail.com">ydegoyon@gmail.com</a>
wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Chris McCormick wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">On 01/04/2012 03:36 PM,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ydegoyon@gmail.com">ydegoyon@gmail.com</a> wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">productivity? that's what we should
hate...
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
fuck yes!
<br>
<br>
"i define success as not working, and i live like a king." (nofx)
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
hey chris, i'm droiding party, i see it as the major kewl thing in pd
<br>
these past years sooo great .... keep the good work ...
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Hi Yves,
<br>
<br>
I'm glad you are enjoying the port of Pd.
<br>
<br>
Thank you very much for CC'ing the list with my private message and
outing me as a closet capitalism-hating punk.
<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mccormick.cx/gfx/cas405-180bpm.gif">http://mccormick.cx/gfx/cas405-180bpm.gif</a>
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<br>
Cheers,
<br>
<br>
Chris.
<br>
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</blockquote>
bah you know it's no secret
<br>
and an honour for you,
<br>
but if i missed the point,
<br>
are they any capitalist-loving people on this list ?
<br>
hum ok maybe...
<br>
<br>
i'd like to think people make things because
<br>
they like to do it, not because they are pushed and oppressed
<br>
by market needs that's what we meant no?
<br>
<br>
production just means obey,
<br>
creating is following your own ideas,
<br>
and maybe you'll get wrong like Steve Jobs ...
<br>
oh he must be a cat now anyway...
<br>
<br>
salut!
<br>
sevy
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