You're right Jonathan, I completely agree. I really shouldn't post things until I've had breakfast. Or try to be light and ironic on topics that I believe strongly in, i.e. cynicism != useful in most situations.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><span>No, there really are music students out there looking at what they need in order to be successful, and <br></span></div><div><span>when most of the voices around them are aggressively (and often ignorantly) suggesting only <br>
</span></div><div><span>proprietary </span><span>tools that cost </span><span>lots of money, these students </span><span>save up their meager resources in order to <br></span></div><div><span>buy them. I'm talking about students who are probably already in debt from loans, and it's quite common <br>
</span></div><div><span>that they max out on their technology budget and as a consequence are unable to attend a <br></span></div><div><span>festival.</span></div><div><br></div><div>What's even worse is that these constrained options lead to a lot of those students downloading
<br></div><div>cracked copies of proprietary software (and the negative effects there usually manifest themselves <br></div><div>more quickly and concretely).</div><div><br></div><div>-Jonathan<br></div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px">
<div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Richie Cyngler <<a href="mailto:glitchpop@gmail.com" target="_blank">glitchpop@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Jonathan Wilkes <<a href="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Ben Baker-Smith <<a href="mailto:bbakersmith@gmail.com" target="_blank">bbakersmith@gmail.com</a>>; pd list <<a href="mailto:pd-list@iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list@iem.at</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 10, 2012 5:53 PM<div><div class="h5"><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PD] no pd?? WTF ????<br> </div></div></font><div><div class="h5"> <br>
<div>Not a bad point... but, or more likely because they are supporting only those artists able to afford such things as expensive software, travel and food.<br><br><div>On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I can't think of a better example of the vicious cycle of software lock-in than this. <br>
They don't have money to offer financial support, so they have to rely on the tools<br>
that they know, which are proprietary and expensive, thus making it even less likely<br>
that a composer would be able to afford to travel to the concert (because he/she<br>
had to spend money on either Max/MSP or Kyma to composer the piece in the first<br>
place).<br>
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-Jonathan<br>
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:12 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [PD] no pd?? WTF ????<br>
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</div><div><div>> Hi list!<br>
><br>
> I got a more clear response from the organizers on this issue than<br>
> anything I've seen in this thread so far - here it is:<br>
><br>
>> Hi Ben,<br>
>><br>
>> thanks for your Interest in our Call.<br>
>><br>
>> We accepts only patches made with Kyma or Max/MSP due the fact we are not<br>
> able to provide<br>
>> financial support for the two selected composers. So it is possible that<br>
> they will not be able to be in Milan for the concert.<br>
>> To avoid technical issues we choose the plattforms we already use in our<br>
> work or we are very familiar with.<br>
>> This is the only reason.<br>
>> If the selected composer can assure us to be available for the concert the<br>
> can be used any piece of software/hardware.<br>
>><br>
>> I hope this helps.<br>
>><br>
>> Many thanks<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Federico Placidi<br>
><br>
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