Thanks Hans.<div><br></div><div>I still think it is doable for the Xth Sense lib, this is the current state of the lib according to the guidelines.</div><div><br></div><div>OK_ it is cross-platform, I did 7 workshops in 2011 with this tools on different machines.</div>
<div><br></div>OK_ the lib is in Libdir format<br><br>OK_ it is already released as a standalone Libdir on github and <a href="http://puredata.info">puredata.info</a><br><br>NOT OK_ Two objects do depend on something not included in Pd-extended<div>
what could be the best way to solve this issue?<br><br>OK_ it is listed in the <a href="http://puredata.org">puredata.org</a> libraries page</div><div><a href="http://puredata.info/downloads/xth-sense-library">http://puredata.info/downloads/xth-sense-library</a></div>
<div><br>OK_ I'm happy to do Debian/testing with some guidance</div><div><div><br></div><div><div>Let me know what do you think, if the inclusion is possible,</div><div>and if I'm missing something.</div><div>Gonna subscribe to Pd-dev.</div>
</div><div><br></div><div>thanks,</div><div>M</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at">hans@at.or.at</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br><div><div class="im"><div>On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:</div>
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Sadly it's too late to include Xth Sense to Pd-ext, I already ask for<br>
the inclusion of PdMtl and Mtl Abstraction in the next Pd-ext (0.43).<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>ooh :/</div><div>wow, PdMtl is out there since ages... </div><div>I always thought why it is not yet included. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>One showstopper is that it relies on objects that are not included in Pd-extended (pool, last I checked). But mostly its because there has never been a proper versioned release. </div>
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Quoting Hans<br>
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I think its too late for 0.43, but 0.44 is definitely possible. With<br>
much less work, we can make it easy for people to find and install<br>
themselves, and that takes effect once you do it. Only one small thing<br>
has been added since November, so its in feature freeze.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I see, fair enough. But why it is such a hassle?</div><div>If the library is ready according to the community guidelines, is it still a pain to include it?</div></div></blockquote><div>
<br></div></div><div>People have come to expect quite a bit of consistency with libraries in Pd-extended, and this consistency is cross-platform. Indeed this is a core goal of Pd-extended. That means that new libraries need to be checked so that they are known to work the same across all platforms that Pd-extended supports. It also means that every object included in Pd-extended will work with only Pd-extended, no external libraries required. And it means that every object has its own help patch, and so on, and so forth.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If you think that getting into Debian/testing is hard, that is easier than it seems. The library template takes care of that for you, and I'm happy to sponsor/upload/maintain in Debian any Pd library that is based on the Library Template.</div>
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- Having it on github will make that a easier too. You don't need to<br>
make release tarballs, for example, you can just tag a release in git,<br>
ie "git tag v0.1", then github makes a link to a downloadable tarball.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Xth Sense is happily on github already.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
- adding it to the <a href="http://puredata.info/downloads" target="_blank">puredata.info/downloads</a> section will make it easy for<br>
people to find<br>
<br>
- and making sure it works fine when you drop it into ~/pd-externals,<br>
~/Library/Pd, etc.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>did that to facilitate installation process during my workshop.</div><div>Will add it to downloads when it will be ready.</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div><br>
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