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my experience is that puredata basically takes the raw signal from your controller. If you can find some method of fixing this in your OS, by all means let me know<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 10:42:06 +0100<br>From: james@4thharmonic.com<br>To: jbturgid@hotmail.com<br>CC: pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at<br>Subject: Re: [PD] HID double triggers<br><br>
If it was spurious noise from a switch that was insufficiently
debounced, surely I would get more random triggers? For example,
sometimes one trigger, sometimes two or three? Also, if this is a
fundamental issue with the hardware, then how does Mac OS X manage
to handle it correctly? Surely it is an issue with either [hid] or
linux, and therefore a bug with one or the other?<br>
<br>
Thanks for the patch. It is possible to ignore duplicate messages in
a stream as you suggest however it's complicated somewhat by the
fact that the messages don't always arrive in the same order!<br>
<br>
For example:<br>
<br>
<tt>[hid] 0.7, written by Hans-Christoph Steiner <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hans@eds.org"><hans@eds.org></a><br>
compiled on Apr 15 2012 at 08:12:47 <br>
[hid] opened device 4 (/dev/input/event4): AT Translated Set 2
keyboard<br>
</tt><tt>print: key key_j 1<br>
print: key key_l 1<br>
print: key key_j 1<br>
print: key key_l 1<br>
print: key key_j 0<br>
print: key key_j 0<br>
print: key key_l 0<br>
print: key key_l 0<br>
<br>
</tt>I can filter these out later on, but it would be nice to have a
bug free object!<br>
<br>
thanks for you help<br>
<br>
James<br>
<br>
<br>
Quoth Andrew Faraday, on 18/04/2012 19:27:
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<div dir="ltr"> I've had this problem before with [hid],
apparently it's a hardware issue called 'debouncing', which is
often ignored because it is often irrelevant (pushed is pushed,
for game controllers, rather than a button-on/button-off signal
used for most music systems). <br>
<br>
You can deal with the problem in pure data by using a trigger,
float and delay of one millisecond. See the attached patch,
click the message boxes and watch your terminal for the result.
<br>
<br>
I hope this helps.<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
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<hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:53:44 +0100<br>
From: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:james@4thharmonic.com">james@4thharmonic.com</a><br>
To: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at">pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at</a><br>
Subject: [PD] HID double triggers<br>
<br>
Hi list,<br>
<br>
recently I've been playing around with [hid] again and still
have the issue with double triggers on linux (see previous
post <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list%40iem.at/msg32170.html" target="_blank">here</a>).<br>
<br>
I've downloaded the latest version of <a href="http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/Pd-0.43.1-extended-ubuntu-lucid-i386.deb" target="_blank">Pd-0.43.1-extended-ubuntu-lucid-i386.deb</a>
but I have the same problem with my existing Arch Linux
installation on my laptop as well.<br>
<br>
It works fine on Mac 10.6. The problem is that I basically get
two identical events for each key press and release, ie:<br>
<br>
<tt>[hid] 0.7, written by Hans-Christoph Steiner <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hans@eds.org"><hans@eds.org></a><br>
compiled on Apr 15 2012 at 08:12:47 <br>
[hid] opened device 4 (/dev/input/event4): AT Translated Set
2 keyboard<br>
print: key key_u 1<br>
print: key key_u 1<br>
print: key key_u 0<br>
print: key key_u 0<br>
</tt><br>
Is anyone else having this problem?<br>
<br>
thanks<br>
<br>
James<br>
<br>
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