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Hey Andy<br><br>Pure data text files are not human readable, this is a simple fact of their existence, while you can tell what an object is and where it is on the canvas (although subpatches make even this difficult), the objects and inlets/outlets for wires are numeric, and you have to add anything new at the end of the file to avoid them pointing to the wrong place.<br><br>I have come across this library for ruby https://github.com/nagachika/ruby-puredata/, which will remember objects by name and hopefully would be usable to make some pure data work in text. Although I've never gotten into it, so I don't know if it will be of any use. <br><br>https://github.com/nagachika/ruby-puredata/<br><br>Andrew<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:58:07 +0100<br>> From: padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk<br>> To: sam.raker@gmail.com<br>> CC: pd-list@iem.at<br>> Subject: Re: [PD] Textual pd primer<br>> <br>> <br>> I guess this is a case of working out best practices for development.<br>> <br>> Nobody actually develops Pd in text mode, but gettin things running in<br>> an embedded way involves a good deal less graphics and can be intimidating<br>> or confusing at first.<br>> <br>> If you don't want the RPi set up with mouse, kbd and monitor like a full<br>> system, it's rather like working on other embedded development systems,<br>> you need to see the board as a target host, and your local machine as the<br>> development (client).<br>> <br>> One way is to work on a laptop or desktop, and the ftp/scp them accross to the<br>> target board.<br>> <br>> But probably most useful is to use X windows to ssh <br>> <br>> ssh -Y -l user address.of.my.rpi<br>> <br>> and then just start Pd, which will seem to run on your main machine.<br>> <br>> <br>> I sense some kind of Raspberry Pi and Pd workshop in the coming<br>> weeks. maybe best developmnt practices and tips will be an<br>> outcme of that meeting.<br>> <br>> best,<br>> Andy<br>> <br>> <br>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:42:47AM -0400, Sam Raker wrote:<br>> > Hi guys,<br>> > Longtime listener, first time caller. <br>> > I was wondering if there's a good intro to text-only pd. I just got a raspberry pi, and I've heard a lot of chatter about how the -nogui flag solves a lot of weird dsp problems &c, plus it'd be nice not to have to waste a USB port plugging in a mouse as well as a keyboard/midi keyboard/sound card/m-audio box/etc. Plus my main comp is a mac, and I'm worried making my patches on my Mac and then getting them onto my pi will be a pain in the b. <br>> > <br>> > I've seen people say stuff like, "oh, just make a patch and look at it with a text editor and figure it out," but that's a bit over my head.<br>> > <br>> > Thoughts?<br>> > <br>> > -sam<br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list<br>> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list<br>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list<br></div> </div></body>
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