<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">That feature comes at the expense of compatibility, which<br>normally wouldn't be an issue _except_ that Pd<br>Vanilla already has the same functionality.&nbsp; So let's encourage<br>use of the more compatible way using [expr], which is<br>clearly documented and supports the _exact_ same features<br>as arraysize.<br><br>-Jonathan<br><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">  <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1">  <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Hans-Christoph Steiner &lt;hans@at.or.at&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight:
 bold;">To:</span></b> pd-list@iem.at <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:24 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PD] [PD-announce] apt.puredata.info is back!<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv1881120492">
  

    
  
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    IMHO, arraysize is very useful because it has a memorable name.&nbsp; "I
    need to find the size of an array... oh, [arraysize]".<br>
    <br>
    .hc<br>
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    On 09/27/2012 02:13 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:<br>
    <span style="white-space:pre;">&gt; Please change the description
      for the package<br>
      &gt; "pd-arraysize"<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; "This object is deprecated. Use [expr size("array-name")]<br>
      &gt; which works out of the box for Pd Extended, Pd Vanilla,<br>
      &gt; and Pd-l2ork."<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; -Jonathan<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt;<br>
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      &gt;&gt; Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:13 AM<br>
      &gt;&gt; Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] apt.puredata.info is back!<br>
      &gt;&gt;<br>
      &gt; last night hans and me finally setup a replacement machine
      for<br>
      &gt; apt.puredata.info[1], the ultimate source for Pd-extended on<br>
      &gt; Debian-based systems (Debian, Ubuntu, Li<br>
      &gt; fgmasdfnux/Mint,...)[2].<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; it is now hosted on the puredata.info portal/mailinglist
      server,<br>
      &gt; courtesy of iem.<br>
      &gt;<br>
      &gt; fgmasdf<br>
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