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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Scope~ and envgen work just fine here.
Can you report what is broken with them? As for output~, I am not
even sure what library is this a part of since I don't use it.
Since pd-l2ork by default does not load all libraries, you need to
explicitly call the object by its folder/lib, e.g.
<libname>/output~<br>
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On 11/24/2012 09:16 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAJQqjJTCotftd702_WgFop1P=mxKZ_K+-9N-dJzvtSgJFhWRkQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">It would be amazing if Pd-extended 0.43 is put to work
with jack... *.*
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<div>Pd-L2Ork can't suply my expectations.. </div>
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<div>objects like [output~] [Scope~] [envgen] don't work on the
L2Ork version here..</div>
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<div>My last chance would be pd-extended 0.43...</div>
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If someone can point me to the commit that fixes this, I'm
happy to include it in Pd-extended 0.43. I just never use
Jack, so I don't know what's what. Things work in my basic
tests.<br>
<br>
I know that Miller changed this stuff in pure-data.git.<br>
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On Nov 24, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Gerhard Lang wrote:<br>
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> Tx Ivica and Esteban,<br>
> as similarly afflicted user encouraged by this
thread I followed this recommendation, replaced pd and
pd-extended with pd-l2ork.<br>
> Works flawlessly together with jack 1.9.9-test5
from kx-studio ppa, dsp is switchable, some other bugs
are gone, my patches run :D<br>
> You made my day and now I'm going to learn more
about L2ork.<br>
> Gerhard<br>
><br>
> Am 24.11.2012 17:35, schrieb Ivica Bukvic:<br>
>><br>
>> With 1.9.8 and pd-l2ork all your problems will
be solved except for the one caused by jack which in
your case should not be a problem unless you physically
disconnect (accidentally our otherwise) your audio
hardware while jack is running.<br>
>><br>
>> On Nov 24, 2012 7:44 AM, "Esteban Viveros" <<a
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href="mailto:emviveros@gmail.com">emviveros@gmail.com</a>
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wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> HUm... Ok... I will try!<br>
>><br>
>> But what the better? Jack 1.9.8 or 1.9.9?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2012/11/24 Ivica Bukvic <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a>
<mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a>>><br>
>><br>
>> That is the regression I spoke of in pd
0.43 branch. Try<br>
>> pd-l2ork...<br>
>><br>
>> On Nov 23, 2012 9:27 PM, "Esteban
Viveros"<br>
>> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Ops... I did a better test, and
doing first open Pd and<br>
>> then I open Jack. Now The DSP
function work well, but I<br>
>> don't have sound...<br>
>><br>
>> On messages box I have:<br>
>><br>
>> 00:18:26.321 Patchbay deactivated.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:18:26.373 Statistics reset.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:18:26.388 ALSA connection change.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:18:26.440 JACK connection change.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:18:26.467 Client activated.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:18:52.992 JACK connection graph
change.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:18:53.134 JACK connection change.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:19:38.102 Client deactivated.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:19:38.103 Post-shutdown script...<br>
>><br>
>> 00:19:38.103
dreamstudio-restart-pulseaudio<br>
>><br>
>> # making sure pulseaudio will
restart if it crashes<br>
>><br>
>> # starting pulseaudio<br>
>><br>
>> # connecting pulseaudio to JACK<br>
>><br>
>> Falha: A inicialização do módulo
falhou<br>
>><br>
>> Falha: A inicialização do módulo
falhou<br>
>><br>
>> 00:19:41.798 Post-shutdown script
terminated with exit<br>
>> status=256.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:19:44.297 JACK connection change.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:19:44.311 Client activated.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:20:38.543 JACK connection graph
change.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:20:38.693 JACK connection change.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:20:42.648 ALSA connection graph
change.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:20:42.708 ALSA connection change.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:20:42.709 ALSA connection graph
change.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:20:42.910 ALSA connection change.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:20:45.334 JACK connection graph
change.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:20:45.514 JACK connection change.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:20:52.993 JACK connection graph
change.<br>
>><br>
>> 00:20:53.014 Buffer size change
(64).<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> What can I do now?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2012/11/23 Esteban Viveros <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:emviveros@gmail.com">emviveros@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:emviveros@gmail.com">emviveros@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>><br>
>> Hmmm... I can understand now...<br>
>><br>
>> Well.. I tried now the version
of Jack on kxstudio<br>
>> testing ppa<br>
>> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://launchpad.net/%7Ekxstudio-team/+archive/testing"
target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/%7Ekxstudio-team/+archive/testing</a>><br>
>> and the problem is the same...
:(<br>
>><br>
>> This ppa was install jack2,
jackd and jackdfirewire<br>
>> packages on version 1.9.9 but
the package<br>
>> libjack-jack2.0 is mantained on
version 1.9.8<br>
>><br>
>> The next step will be to compile
jack packages on<br>
>> version 1.9.9<br>
>><br>
>> Ivica, or anyone, you have some
information how can I<br>
>> compile that? For that I need
some help.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2012/11/23 Ivica Ico Bukvic <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a>>><br>
>><br>
>> See below (from the
linux-audio-user list):<br>
>><br>
>> Re: [LAU] question about
jackdmp's ability to<br>
>> detect its soundcard has
disconnected<br>
>><br>
>> Could this be the difference
between 1.9.8 and git<br>
>> version?<br>
>><br>
>> On Oct 29, 2012 12:10 PM,
"Robin Gareus"<br>
>> <<a
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wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On 10/29/2012 03:55 PM,
Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:<br>
>> > All,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I noticed since
upgrading to Ubuntu 12.04 that<br>
>> the default Jack server is<br>
>> > jackdmp (v.1.9.8).
Please correct me if I am<br>
>> wrong but my understanding
this<br>
>> > is the smp-enabled
version 2 that is being<br>
>> developed in parallel with
1.x<br>
>> > series of regular jack.<br>
>><br>
>> correct. They are also API
and ABI compatible.<br>
>><br>
>> > Either way, one of my
concerns is that while in<br>
>> the old jack when one<br>
>> > accidentally pulled the
soundcard jack was<br>
>> trying to talk to (e.g. a
USB<br>
>> > soundcard), the jack
would gracefully stop.<br>
>><br>
>> In my experience it stopped
but never gracefully<br>
>> (ie it crashed). but<br>
>> it's been a while since I
used jack1.<br>
>><br>
>> > The new version (and
this could<br>
>> > be Ubuntu quirk)
instead of stopping is pegged<br>
>> in some kind of a spinlock<br>
>> > that often times locks
up the machine (this may<br>
>> be in part since I am<br>
>> > running a lowlatency
kernel with audio group<br>
>> given priority) and at times<br>
>> > keeps it operational
while hogging the cpu and<br>
>> making the computer barely<br>
>> > responsive until jackd
is killed. Apps connected<br>
>> to jack that I tested so<br>
>> > far are also stuck in a
loop waiting for a<br>
>> response from jack (although
this<br>
>> > could be the app's
shortcoming)--jack never<br>
>> broadcasts a signal that it
has<br>
>> > lost the soundcard
(AFAICT). FWIW I am running<br>
>> jackdmp through qjackctl...<br>
>> > Any thoughts on this
matter would be most<br>
>> appreciated.<br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
>> I can't reproduce this.
jack2 stops the backend<br>
>> when the device is<br>
>> disconnected. You can switch
to a new backend<br>
>> using jack_control<br>
>> (sending some Dbus messages
to jackd) without<br>
>> re-starting jackd. No CPU<br>
>> hogging here. - I'm running
jack2 - aka 1.9.9.4<br>
>> from git.<br>
>><br>
>> robin<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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