<p dir="ltr">Speaking of Microsoft-like statements, are you apologizing for the fact that pd-extended's undo is bad or the fact that you misrepresented pd-l2ork's undo as being incomplete? ;-)</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 3, 2013 10:31 AM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <<a href="mailto:hans@at.or.at">hans@at.or.at</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I stand corrected, sorry, I was mistaken before. Yes, the undo situation in<br>
Pd vanilla/extended is not good.<br>
<br>
I didn't realize I'd become Microsoft, I thought I was just writing some<br>
software for people to freely use ;-)<br>
<br>
.hc<br>
<br>
On 02/03/2013 09:58 AM, Ivica Bukvic wrote:<br>
> Those are a part of the undo on pd-l2ork, as is changing properties of any<br>
> other object, such as canvas and array (unlike pd-extended that in many<br>
> cases fails to even acknowledge that the patch has been altered and needs<br>
> to be saved, needless to mention add such change to its 1-step undo queue,<br>
> e.g. try changing canvas properties and undoing it).<br>
><br>
> It would be nice if not spreading FUD were added to the mailing list<br>
> netiquette...<br>
> On Feb 3, 2013 5:07 AM, "Roman Haefeli" <<a href="mailto:reduzent@gmail.com">reduzent@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> On Son, 2013-02-03 at 00:25 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:<br>
>>>>>> states. The first part o that is not hard, the second part is. But<br>
>>> since<br>
>>>>>> unlimited undo is working in some parts of pd-l2ork, we at least<br>
>> have a<br>
>>>>>> working example to draw from.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> What do you mean by "in some parts?" Can you give an example of where<br>
>>>> it<br>
>>>>> does not work?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Setting a value in the properties of a slider.<br>
>>><br>
>>> You are kidding, right? If the value changes in the UI, this should not<br>
>> be<br>
>>> undoable. Otherwise, having that slider connected to a [metro 1] and<br>
>> random<br>
>>> would starve memory within minutes, needless to mention make undo<br>
>> completely<br>
>>> useless...<br>
>><br>
>> I guess Hans is talking about properties like color, sendname etc. The<br>
>> rationale is that those might be considered to be part of patch editing<br>
>> as opposed to changing slider values which could be considered part of<br>
>> patch usage.<br>
>><br>
>> Roman<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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