<div dir="ltr">IOhannes, you are right... I try open one more time testing-abstration (sorry for the error..) in windows that time. <div>And outlet is showned in autotips, the only problem it's a little hard to hit the outlet area...</div>
<div><br></div><div style>If can be fixed the problem of rectangle GOP and IOlets always at the top, I'm a very happy pd-user! ;)</div><div style><br></div><div style>I can suggest either a "little bigger" area of autotips response to iolets.</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/2/18 Jonathan Wilkes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="im">>Subject: Re: [PD] GUI abstraction issues<br>
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</div><div class="im">>Well I try the IOhannes sugestion, and autotips don't work correctly with my abstraction... :/<br>
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>I tried to create another example (testing-abstration), and now only the inlet are working with autotips feature... In pd-l2ork everything works fine.<br>
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</div>Indeed it doesn't. It looks like when the abstraction is GOP, it registers all the<br>
xlet #s as "-1", and it doesn't detect the bounding box of the object. (The latter<br>
because I'm looking for the text tag, which a gop box doesn't have.)<br>
<br>
I imagine Ivica's works because he's checking for tooltips on the c-side, and I'm<br>
checking on the tcl side.<br>
<br>
Pd-l2ork: Check whether there's an object or inlet under current mouse position. If<br>
there is, look for its tooltip text in the help patch, then draw the tooltip.<br>
<br>
Pd-ext: Trigger an event when the mouse hovers over an object or inlet that is<br>
_visible_ on the canvas. Look for the tooltip text in the help patch, then draw the<br>
tooltip.<br>
<br>
Pd-l2ork's approach is more robust-- for example, it's easier for him to enlarge the area<br>
that will register an xlet tooltip. Pd-extended's currently has what I think is the "proper"<br>
behavior, though-- you only show tooltips for objects that are visible to the user. If the<br>
patch author covers up an object with a [cnv], he/she is actively hiding that object, and<br>
it shouldn't register a tooltip. It's bad UI design to show a tooltip when the user can't see<br>
the thing it refers to.<br>
<br>
Anyway, I'll investigate and see if I can come up with a fix for the testing-abstration (sic)<br>
situation. But if you're putting [cnv] objects on top of xlets then they shouldn't respond to<br>
tooltips. That problem should be fixed at the source: xlets and object rectangle should<br>
always be at the top of the stacking order. (I guess there could also be an option for<br>
hiding xlets or the box, but that doesn't seem like a good idea for visual dataflow.)<br>
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-Jonathan<br>
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