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<div><span style="font-family: 'lucida grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">""No, there is no, and probably wil be no libpd-extended. It's up to you to include and build external source
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<span style="font-family: 'lucida grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Yes, expr~ is in. The license is BSD now. As for other things, try rjlib which aims to recreate many things currently
in externals in pd-extended: </span><a rel="nofollow" href="https://github.com/rjdj/rjlib" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-family: 'lucida grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; vertical-align: middle; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">https://github.com/rjdj/rjlib</a><br style="font-family: 'lucida grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">
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<span style="font-family: 'lucida grande', 'Lucida Sans Unicode', tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">This is not a limitation as it's actually easier to do somethings directly in C/C++, etc""</span></div>
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<div><font face="lucida grande, Lucida Sans Unicode, tahoma, sans-serif"><span style="line-height: 18px;">is there a way to build expr~ for MobMuPLat and use it then?</span></font></div>
<div><font face="lucida grande, Lucida Sans Unicode, tahoma, sans-serif"><span style="line-height: 18px;">that is the only object i seem to need, there is sources and a makefile included in the PdVanilla for MMplat</span></font></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 18, 2013 1:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniel Iglesia<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [PD] MobMuPlat for Ipad and expr~ woes<br>
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<div dir="ltr">peter brinkmann is the guy who who would know best, but i seem to remember pretty clearly that he stated somewhere [expr] and [expr~] were ok to use with libPD on the AppStore. in other words (i assume) they had been recompiled from source in
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<div style="">here's the bit that clearly states that the vanilla version of PD does not have the right version of [expr] and [expr~] this is older news from about 2011 i think:</div>
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<div style="">and here's the bit where they mention [expr] and [expr~] are now under LGPL, but it doesn't appear to solve the issue definitively:</div>
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<div style=""><a href="http://createdigitalnoise.com/discussion/1341/can-i-use-pd-extended-with-libpd/p1" target="_blank">http://createdigitalnoise.com/discussion/1341/can-i-use-pd-extended-with-libpd/p1</a><br>
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<div style="">the total solution if you want that specific functionality (that i am aware of) is to recompile [expr] and [expr~] from source and put it under a BSD or MIT license.</div>
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<div style="">the alternative is to redo that functionality with simple vanilla objects. there's a nice thread her on the PD forum about it:</div>
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<div style=""><a href="http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-6980-way-rewrite-expr" target="_blank">http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-6980-way-rewrite-expr</a><br>
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<div style="">hope this helps somewhat,</div>
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<div style="">best,</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Daniel Iglesia <span dir="ltr">
<<a href="mailto:daniel.iglesia@gmail.com" target="_blank">daniel.iglesia@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi everyone, (first time poster!)<br>
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expr and expr~ can't be in a closed-source binary. (the libpd doc has some discussion of this I believe). Once I release MobMuPlat open source, I was hoping to include them in the binary+source at that point. However, I have to check the licensing issues to
see if even that is allowed, as MobMuPlat is and will be under the BSD license. (if people are well versed in this issue, please feel free to chime in.)<br>
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If they can't be included, then removing them from the pd-vanilla flavor in the distribution is probably a good idea, will do that.<br>
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Best, Dan<br>
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On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Patrick Pagano wrote:<br>
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> That's one of 20 expr~s that i need :-(<br>
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> On 03/18/2013 11:01 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:<br>
>> On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 13:52 +0000, Pagano, Patrick wrote:<br>
>>> damnit.<br>
>>> Any idea when that might be or a workaround?<br>
>>> silent weeping<br>
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>>> expr if($f1-$f2==0, 0, 1)<br>
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