<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>"And what happened to Puredyne? Was it killed? Page is offline..."<br><br></div>Yep - it's a gonner.<br><br></div>AFAIK - Never managed to get it going on macs anyway - though I did see Nick Collins do it at ICMC11 somehow, and in about 15m. Never followed it up as puredyne was unfortunately obviously on it's way out by that point. Hell of a job keeping a full-blown distro up and running, amazing GOTO10 did it for so long.<br>
<br></div></div>Cheers,<br><br></div>Julian<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 31 May 2013 18:10, Alexandre Torres Porres <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Nice, just so we're all on the same page, the thing Esteban mentioned about "any RT ready distro works" makes sense, right?<div>
<br></div><div>I can forget about the idea someone gave that the more hard to install and configure something, the better (like slackware). So something like Ubuntu Studio does the trick as well as anything else, right?</div>
<div><br></div><div>So, besides what you mentioned, is there any other option to chose from? </div><div><br></div><div>Here's what I got:</div><div><br></div><div>- Ubuntu Studio</div><div><br></div><div>And three that are based on Ubuntu Studio, or Ubuntu...</div>
<div><br></div><div>- KXstudio </div><div>- Shumamis Linux Light</div><div>- DreamStudio</div><div><br></div><div>Anything else?</div><div><br></div><div>And what happened to Puredyne? Was it killed? Page is offline... </div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>So all I need to do is work the booting crap out and have fun... cool. Will do.</div><div><br></div><div>thanks</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2013/5/31 Pedro Lopes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:plopesresearch@gmail.com" target="_blank">plopesresearch@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Mine is a <span style="line-height:18px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:12px;font-family:'Lucida Grande','Lucida Sans Unicode',Helvetica,Arial,Verdana,sans-serif">MacBook Air (13-inch, Mid 2012)</span><br>
<br>I run Ubuntu (last stable) and all drivers work. Including wifi and the likes. Touchpad needs additional tweeking though and have not yet had the time for that.<div><br></div><div>I need macosx to lecture at the university and I ran pd there without any issues, trough jack (I basically have replicated setups on both linux and mac).</div>
<div><br></div><div>best,</div><div>pedro<div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">cool you're coming!<div><br></div><div>by the way, mine is a macbook air, mid 2011</div><div><br></div><div>cheers<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emviveros@gmail.com" target="_blank">emviveros@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Ok.. Ubuntu have optimized images for mac (<a href="http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/" target="_blank">http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/</a>)<div>
<br></div><div>I can't do a specific ubuntu prepared for you because I don't have a mac to run this Ubuntu and do all the test.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If you don't have any solution, I'm going to SP in more 3 weeks, contact me and we can try something together..</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emviveros@gmail.com" target="_blank">emviveros@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hum... :/<div><br></div><div>Ok... Waiting for another suggestion I'm find some new information.</div>
<div><br></div><div>All the three distros I suggest are based in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... Seems some macbook pro models Ubuntu 12.04 don't work.</div>
<div><br></div><div>First check this list: <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro</a></div><div><br></div><div>If it's possible, you can try this tutorial: <a href="http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html" target="_blank">http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Seems more easy and direct than the last link information.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>> it says "no bootable device - press any key"<br><br></div>KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue. Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.<br>
<br>thanks<div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
hmm, no luck<br><br>well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive, but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device - press any key"<div>
<br></div><div>This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for it. Maybe some other distribution?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks<div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emviveros@gmail.com" target="_blank">emviveros@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;) <div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div>
<div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emviveros@gmail.com" target="_blank">emviveros@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Sorry... Reply all...<div><br></div><div>Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and tecnology workshops I do.</div>
<div><br></div><div>To install ardour:</div>
<div><br></div><div>1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal.</div><div><br></div><div>2) run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3</div><div><br></div><div>3) it is!</div></div><div><div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div><div>cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air. Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram</div>
<div><br></div><div>cheers</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emviveros@gmail.com" target="_blank">emviveros@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div>Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency kernel.</div><div><br></div>I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install.<div>
<a href="http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/" target="_blank">http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio:<br></div><div><a href="http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/" target="_blank">http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio:</div><div><a href="http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/</a><br></div><div><br></div>
<div>All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency kernels preconfigured. </div><div>If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3 distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.</div>
<div><br></div><div>With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
</div><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.666666984558105px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">> One very big advantage on Linux is</span></div>
<div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.666666984558105px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">> the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack</span><br>
<br></div>I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more powerful than soundflower...</div><div><br></div><div>thanks<div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lorenzofsutton@gmail.com" target="_blank">lorenzofsutton@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother in<br>
Linux than in any other OS, is that right?<br>
<br>
Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same machine and<br>
diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself.<br>
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<br></div>
Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on windows and once on OSX.<br>
<br>
One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel.<br>
Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want.<div><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you to tweak<br>
in a little more to have insanely low latencies?<br>
<br>
Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an absurdly<br>
optimized latency and CPU load.<br>
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Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that.<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna enjoy the<br>
opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular laptops.<br>
<br>
I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like being next<br>
to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best one") linux<br>
distribution in it.<br>
<br>
I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at least)<br>
with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works well on<br>
linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm missing is<br>
that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. That'd be cool,<br>
to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress.<br>
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Can't comment on those.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
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