<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt">Aha. So I probably need to go through a process of elimination to discover which external is causing this, and then maybe we can fix it relatively simply by changing the "pd" to "pdsend" in the source code?<br><br>I dread to say anything like "relatively simple" - but these things needs to be sorted out incrementally. Will report back when I find anything...<br><br>Cheers,<br>Ed<br><br><br><br> <div><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">  <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">  <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Jonathan Wilkes &lt;jancsika@yahoo.com&gt;<br> <b><span
 style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> pd-list@iem.at <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 28 July 2013, 17:08<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PD] Error: invalid command name "pd"<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv2080461622">
  

    
  
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        <div><span>Can anyone tell me what's causing this?</span></div>
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    Probably an external that does its own messaging.<br>
    Probably messaging between the GUI and pd.&nbsp; See if<br>
    you're using any non-Vanilla GUI object classes.<br>
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    Messages from the gui like "pd audio-properties"<br>
    got changed to<br>
    "pdsend audio-properties"<br>
    with the big GUI code remix awhile back.&nbsp; This<br>
    _breaks_ user patches like yours and requires<br>
    you or someone else to go in and make a permanent<br>
    change to the source of the "offending" external.<br>
    (And then that external will no longer work with old<br>
    versions of Pd that expect "pd" instead of "pdsend".<br>
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    I guess I'll go ahead and say that you should view all<br>
    non-Vanilla GUI classes as "expiremental" and "subject<br>
    to arbitrary change", because they all use tcl/tk code inside<br>
    that will probably break the next time someone separates<br>
    more GUI from the core.<br>
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    -Jonathan<br>
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