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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/30/2013 03:40 PM, Dan Wilcox
      wrote:<br>
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      Here's how we do it in OpenFrameworks:&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/openframeworks/openFrameworks/blob/develop/libs/openFrameworks/utils/ofFileUtils.cpp#L1400">https://github.com/openframeworks/openFrameworks/blob/develop/libs/openFrameworks/utils/ofFileUtils.cpp#L1400</a></blockquote>
    <br>
    Hm, looking here:<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7413445/accessing-proc">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7413445/accessing-proc</a><br>
    <br>
    and here:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1023306/finding-current-executables-path-without-proc-self-exe">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1023306/finding-current-executables-path-without-proc-self-exe</a><br>
    <br>
    It looks like a) proc/self/exe is going to be there for almost all
    (if not indeed all) modern Linux distros,<br>
    and there are methods to get it for the BSDs and OSX.&nbsp; If someone
    knows a Linux setup where Pd<br>
    can be used where "proc/self/exe" wouldn't work, let me know.<br>
    <br>
    That's a lot of ifdefs, but we might as well fill out pd_getdirname
    and then it's easy to hook in through<br>
    [pdinfo].&nbsp; If nothing else, this would be useful for
    debugging/troubleshooting.<br>
    <br>
    That said, launching another Pd from inside Pd this is the wrong
    solution to the OP's problem.&nbsp; That's<br>
    kind of the point of [pd~].&nbsp; Max- Are you experiencing dropouts from
    the subprocess stalling, or are you saying you're trying to avoid
    the possibility of dropouts.&nbsp; If it's the latter, then I'm having a
    hard time figuring out how two Pds connected through netsend would
    avoid dropouts.&nbsp; Also, what causes the freezes?<br>
    <br>
    -Jonathan<br>
    <br>
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          <div>On Jul 30, 2013, at 3:03 PM, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:pd-list-request@iem.at">pd-list-request@iem.at</a>
            wrote:</div>
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                style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color:
                rgb(127, 127, 127); "><b>From:<span
                    class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b></span><span
                style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">Jonathan
                Wilkes &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
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                style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; color:
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                    class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b></span><span
                style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>Re:
                  [PD] get dir of current pd</b><br>
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                style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">July
                30, 2013 2:43:24 PM EDT<br>
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                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:pd-list@iem.at">pd-list@iem.at</a><br>
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              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
              255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">On
              07/30/2013 07:48 AM, yvan volochine wrote:</span><br
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            <blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica;
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              line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto;
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              normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
              -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
              0px; ">On 30/07/13 08:41, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:<br>
              <blockquote type="cite">Ok, I figured out how to do this<br>
              </blockquote>
              <br>
              and how do you do?<br>
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            <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
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              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
              255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">In
              GNU/Linux on some _distros_ you can check the symlink</span><br
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            <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
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              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
              255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">/proc/self/exe</span><br
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            <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
              font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
              normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
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              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
              255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">If
              you do a readink from within C in Pd you'll get the
              absolute</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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              255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">path
              and name of the executable.</span><br style="font-family:
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              font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
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            <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
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              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
              255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">However,
              if you use the command "readlink" to [shell] I imagine</span><br
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            <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
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              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
              255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">the
              readlink binary will look in the mirror and give you its
              own</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
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            <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
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              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
              255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">name
              back.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
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              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
              255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">I
              don't think /proc/self/exe is a requirement of all Linux
              flavors,</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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            <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
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              text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
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              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
              255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">and
              I don't know what the BSD OSes do, or OSX. &nbsp;So I'm
              reluctant</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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              text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
              normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
              -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
              0px; ">
            <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
              font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
              normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
              orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
              text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
              word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
              255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">to
              add this to [pdinfo].</span><br style="font-family:
              Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal;
              font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
              normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align:
              -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
              white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
              -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
              0px; ">
            <br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
              font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
              normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
              orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
              text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
              word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">
            <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
              font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
              normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
              orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
              text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
              word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
              255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">Windows
              has its own function accessible from C to return the full</span><br
              style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
              font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
              normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
              orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
              text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
              word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">
            <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
              font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
              normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
              orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
              text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
              word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
              255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">path
              and name of the executable.</span><br style="font-family:
              Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal;
              font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing:
              normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align:
              -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
              white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
              -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
              0px; ">
            <br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
              font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
              normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
              orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
              text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
              word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">
            <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
              font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
              normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
              orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
              text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
              word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
              255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none; ">-Jonathan</span><br
              style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
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              normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
              orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
              text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
              word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">
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              font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
              normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
              orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px;
              text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
              word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">
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              y<br>
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              -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span
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                separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica;
                font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant:
                normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
                line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px;
                text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2;
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                  <div>Dan Wilcox</div>
                  <div>@danomatika</div>
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                      href="http://danomatika.com">danomatika.com</a></div>
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