<div dir="ltr">So I tried both fixes.. to no effect whatsoever.<div><br></div><div>Also tried to play with tk scaling, but setting it to anything else than 1 breaks my PD (no canvas will load except for the main pd window). Commenting it out seems pretty harmless though (i.e. doesn&#39;t change anything on osx).</div>

<div><br></div><div>Tried a couple of other plist tweaks (aliasing, font size, etc..), but nothing does it.</div><div><br></div><div>Alas, the quest for beauty continues..</div><div>jm</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Jean-Michel Dumas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jm.dumas@gmail.com" target="_blank">jm.dumas@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<p>I&#39;ll be away from the retina Mac for a couple of days but I&#39;ll make sure to test both possible fixes (Miller&#39;s and Dan&#39;s) as soon as I get back.</p>
<p>Cheers and thanks,<br>
Jm</p>
<p>-- envoyé par un androïde --</p>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Aug 21, 2013 5:21 PM, &quot;Dan Wilcox&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank">danomatika@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div>

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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Also, apparently it&#39;s possible to run retina resolutions on non retina hardware for testing: <a href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12124576/how-to-simulate-a-retina-display-hidpi-mode-in-mac-os-x-10-8-mountain-lion-on/13596261#13596261" target="_blank">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12124576/how-to-simulate-a-retina-display-hidpi-mode-in-mac-os-x-10-8-mountain-lion-on/13596261#13596261</a><div>


<br></div><div>That should work for testing Pd + retina without a new machine (hint hint Jonathan :D)</div><div><br><div><div><div>On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Dan Wilcox &lt;<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank">danomatika@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>


<br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">A quick google search gives me this: <a href="http://superuser.com/questions/620824/is-it-possible-to-have-git-gui-gitk-look-good-on-a-retina-macbook-pro" target="_blank">Is it possible to have git gui / gitk look good on a retina Macbook Pro?</a> and <a href="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/7164" target="_blank">this</a>.<div>


<br></div><div>It seems there is a plist key for Retina-able apps. Can you try adding the following to /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Info.plist:</div><div><br></div><div>&lt;key&gt;NSHighResolutionCapable&lt;/key&gt; &lt;true/&gt;</div>


<div><br><div><div>On Aug 21, 2013, at 4:30 PM, <a href="mailto:pd-list-request@iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list-request@iem.at</a> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">


<span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;color:rgb(127,127,127)"><b>From:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">Jean-Michel Dumas &lt;<a href="mailto:jm.dumas@gmail.com" target="_blank">jm.dumas@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>


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<span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;color:rgb(127,127,127)"><b>Subject:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><b>Re: [PD] PD on retina display</b><br></span></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">


<span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;color:rgb(127,127,127)"><b>Date:<span> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">August 21, 2013 4:29:43 PM EDT<br></span></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">


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lol I knew someone would post something like that and i&#39;m aware of ways to do that (though not sed, since you have to be a wizard and/or a machine to use that). i&#39;m still keeping that line, could be handy sometime, thanks.<div>


<br></div><div>i&#39;m working between multiple machines from a centralized patch repository, which means fixing the look of all the patches for one will render them weird looking on the others. my main patching machine is running Ubuntu and everything looks fine on it. the gig machine I need stuff to look good on is a new macbook, hence the retina display.<br>


<div><br></div><div>anyway, the fact remains that all dialogs and menu bars and titles stay ugly even if I can partially fix the patches by reducing font size.</div><div><br></div><div>i&#39;m guessing it&#39;s XQuartz&#39;s fault somehow, but I know nothing about it or how to change the display mode. </div>


<div><br></div><div>jm</div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><div>
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<div>--------</div><div>Dan Wilcox</div><div>@danomatika</div><div><a href="http://danomatika.com/" target="_blank">danomatika.com</a></div><div><a href="http://robotcowboy.com/" target="_blank">robotcowboy.com</a></div>

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<div>--------</div><div>Dan Wilcox</div><div>@danomatika</div><div><a href="http://danomatika.com" target="_blank">danomatika.com</a></div><div><a href="http://robotcowboy.com" target="_blank">robotcowboy.com</a></div><div>


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