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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/24/2013 10:16 AM, Dan Wilcox
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Ah but then if [change] used null by default, it wouldn't actually
work by default ... that seems far worse then the reasonable
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If it had _originally_ defaulted to null and had a "reset" message<br>
or something to return it to null state, that would be the<br>
reasonable behavior. Especially if Pd had a (sensible) user-facing<br>
API to check for existence of floatargs instead of bashing them to
zero,<br>
because then the user wouldn't always take for granted that no<br>
floatarg probably means "0".<br>
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But the null behavior can be achieved with a relatively painless
hack,<br>
and amending [change] would break patches and create more<br>
complexity so I wouldn't argue to change that behavior now.<br>
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-Jonathan<br>
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<div>On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:19 PM, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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