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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/24/2013 10:16 AM, Dan Wilcox
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      Ah but then if [change] used null by default, it wouldn't actually
      work by default ... that seems far worse then the reasonable
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    If it had _originally_ defaulted to null and had a "reset" message<br>
    or something to return it to null state, that would be the<br>
    reasonable behavior.&nbsp; Especially if Pd had a (sensible) user-facing<br>
    API to check for existence of floatargs instead of bashing them to
    zero,<br>
    because then the user wouldn't always take for granted that no<br>
    floatarg probably means "0".<br>
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    But the null behavior can be achieved with a relatively painless
    hack,<br>
    and amending [change] would break patches and create more<br>
    complexity so I wouldn't argue to change that behavior now.<br>
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    -Jonathan<br>
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          <div>On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:19 PM, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                  [PD] [change] bug?</b><br>
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                23, 2013 6:55:36 PM CDT<br>
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              !important; float: none; ">Well, if it is me... yes, I
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                  <div>Dan Wilcox</div>
                  <div>@danomatika</div>
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