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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/22/2013 05:34 PM, Dan Wilcox
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      I'm not going to argue OS politics, again use what works best for
      you. I can understand the frustration with how the build system
      works on OSX. It is actually really nice in a lot of ways but it
      took me a while to get the hang of it after switching from Linux.
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      <div>Without counting Debian, I still think there's really no need
        at this point to support a PPC build for OSX. When I wrote "drop
        PPC support" in earlier emails, I was referring only to OSX.</div>
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    I understand.&nbsp; It just seemed you were explaining why PPC is no
    longer supported as the natural outgrowth of software development
    progress.&nbsp; I mentioned Debian both because I'm curious if anyone
    runs it on PPC, and also as a counter-example to the type of
    development model Apple uses.&nbsp; (One which is able to support a much
    wider variety of architectures at a fraction of the cost.)<br>
    <br>
    A longer discussion of OS politics is probably an unnecessary
    digression here: both you and I are building things in OSX, and that
    won't change by pointing out differences in our philosophy for why
    we do it.&nbsp; But I just wanted to point out that "use what works for
    you" should expand to "use what works for you without creating a
    moral hazard for all of us".&nbsp; One doesn't need to use the language
    of free software advocates in order to do that, but free software is
    undoubtedly part of any viable solution.<br>
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    If the internet that connects all these devices weren't actively
    being weaponized I probably wouldn't quibble over this.<br>
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    Well, I might, but it'd feel more like a pasttime and less like a
    necessity. :)<br>
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      <div> The code as it is now should compile just fine on Debian PPC
        since the only architecture differences as far as I know would
        be compiling for little endian versus big endian on Intel. I
        don't think there are any architecture specific assembly /
        function calls in Pd.</div>
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      <div>So in the end, dropping OSX PPC support helps in simplifying
        the build scripts at least. Again, I think there's really no
        need to host newer Pd OSX PPC binaries, just leave the last one
        there since anyone using it will be on a much older version of
        OSX anyway.<br>
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    Ok, that sounds like the way to go then.<br>
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    -Jonathan<br>
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            <div>On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:05 PM, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:pd-list-request@iem.at">pd-list-request@iem.at</a>
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                      Also, do you have any references for the claim
                      that the vast majority of OSX</span><br
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                      float: none; ">users have moved away from PPC?</span></blockquote>
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                  <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://update.omnigroup.com/">http://update.omnigroup.com/</a>&nbsp;(Hardware
                    / CPU type): Intel 97.8% PPC 2.2%</div>
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                  <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://www.adium.im/sparkle/">https://www.adium.im/sparkle/</a>&nbsp;(CPU
                    type): Intel 97.83% PPC 2.71%</div>
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                  rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important; float:
                  none; ">Thanks.&nbsp; Those are low numbers, but I'd
                  imagine the number of PPC users is</span><br
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                        claim that Apple doesn't ship</span><br
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                        generally be true, and combined with their
                        development model the</span><br
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                        result would seem to be that poor people still
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                        devices are ignored along with their now ugly,
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                  <div>Well, those "sleek and sexy" PPC devices were
                    last made &amp; sold in 2005, so it's not a surprise
                    the vast majority of people using OSX have Intel
                    machines mainly because software developers (&amp;
                    the OS) have moved on to 32 bit and now 64 bit intel
                    years ago.</div>
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                  none; ">Debian supports PPC, no?&nbsp; Anyone know how it
                  does on the old machines?&nbsp; I suppose since Pd is in
                  the repos one could say it still supports PPC. :)</span><br
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                  <div>Your political bias notwithstanding (I say use
                    what works for you),</div>
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                <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
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                  normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
                  orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent:
                  0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
                  widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
                  -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                  -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:
                  rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important; float:
                  none; ">Well, I'd call it a political stance.&nbsp; And
                  where it seemed quirky and deeply</span><br
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                <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
                  font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                  normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
                  orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent:
                  0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
                  widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
                  -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                  -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:
                  rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important; float:
                  none; ">personal when I first adopted it, it now seems
                  simply to be a restatement</span><br
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                <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
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                  normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
                  orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent:
                  0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
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                  -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:
                  rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important; float:
                  none; ">of the scientific method for computer
                  security, at a time when there have</span><br
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                <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
                  font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                  normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
                  orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent:
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                  -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:
                  rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important; float:
                  none; ">been revelations that show our computers
                  really need to be as secure as</span><br
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                  font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
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                <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
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                  normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
                  orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent:
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                  -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:
                  rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important; float:
                  none; ">possible against attacks.</span><br
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                <br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
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                  normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
                  orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent:
                  0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
                  widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
                  -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                  -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; ">
                <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
                  font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                  normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
                  orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent:
                  0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
                  widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
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                  -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:
                  rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important; float:
                  none; ">I'd also point out that yours is a political
                  stance.&nbsp; While I understand</span><br
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                <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
                  font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                  normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
                  orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent:
                  0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
                  widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
                  -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                  -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:
                  rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important; float:
                  none; ">it, I must disagree with it because in terms
                  of security it is much more</span><br
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                <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
                  font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                  normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
                  orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent:
                  0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
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                  -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:
                  rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important; float:
                  none; ">difficult to use the scientific method to
                  check whether the specs actually</span><br
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                <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
                  font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
                  normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
                  orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent:
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                  -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:
                  rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important; float:
                  none; ">fit the implementation.&nbsp; In some cases on
                  proprietary OSes neither are</span><br
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                <span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium;
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                  normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
                  orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent:
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                  -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:
                  rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important; float:
                  none; ">known so you're forced to reverse engineer the
                  software, and for</span><br style="font-family:
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                  expensive to do.</span></div>
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                    <div>Dan Wilcox</div>
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