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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/02/2014 08:09 AM, Pierre Guillot
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<div>For Chocolate : I made this library because I wanted to
have other behaviors than those available in Vanilla or
Extented, I think that design and ergonomics are really
important and can change your approach (I'm not a specialist,
but that seems obvious). Nevertheless, I understand that
people prefer to use the native objects, my propositions are
totally subjective and I think that a big part come from my
experience with Max. Another reason of this work is that I
have another project and I need some specific methods in the
objects. I hope that you'll find this library more interesting
when I'll be able to present this work.</div>
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<div>For Coffee : I work with Pd Vanilla 0.45 so I don't really
use extented and it was really fast and easy to code them so I
did it... Except "prepend", I don't know where are this
objects in Extented (I'll be glad to know it) and if we put
the libraries in the extented distribution, we can remove my
objects (it doesn't matter).</div>
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<div>The names came from a stupid joke with a friend where
Vanilla became Chocolate and Extented became Enhanced, nothing
is really serious (don't worry, I do not claim to replace
Vanilla or Extended). When I realized that perhaps others than
me could be interested to use the library, I wanted to change
the name to avoid mistake but it's really boring to do.</div>
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<div class="im">On 2013-12-31 11:46, Pierre Guillot wrote:<br>
> Quickly : Chocolate is a set of GUIs sometimes
already available in PD<br>
> Vanilla, PD extented or Max with new features (like
presets edition) that I<br>
> hope, you'll enjoy.<br>
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as said before: they are great.<br>
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> And it will be a part of a more complex project for
the<br>
> writting of events. Coffee is a set of objects to
facilitate the patch<br>
> creation.<br>
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but i'm not so sure about these: i think each and every of
these objects<br>
already exists in another library (often in the context of a
more<br>
complete set of similar objects), so i don't fully see the
point of them.<br>
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> Download : <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/pierreguillot/PdEnhanced/releases"
target="_blank">https://github.com/pierreguillot/PdEnhanced/releases</a><br>
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and i would suggest to use another name instead of
"PdEnhanced".<br>
the name suggests that it is a flavour (and the use of
"chocolate" and<br>
"coffee" support this) of Pd itself (like Pd-extended or
Pd-l2ork) but<br>
your set of libraries really is just another set of
libraries... there<br>
about 100 libraries in the puredata SVN repository at
sourceforge.<br>
i guess it would be quite confusing if all of these
libraries would be<br>
called "PdEnhanced".<br>
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Realize that you're responding to someone who gave his library the
extraordinarily clear and descriptive name of "zexy" :)<br>
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-Jonathan<br>
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