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<div>On Jan 13, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <<a
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Sorry, I don't know quite what you're referring to
here. The only two examples I gave-- $@ and
[initbang] wouldn't change anything in the DSP core.<br>
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<div>I wasn't referring to anything in particular, only
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Then what do you think of "$@" or [initbang]? Are there
good reasons for them not being in the core? What about
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Those would definitely be nice to have. I don't know what $@
refers to, is it the object arguments as a list?<br>
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<div>Yes. Everything is still there. It merely abstracts
sending messages and midi into and out of the libpd
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Hm... I didn't realize that. That being the case, you could
certainly go ahead and figure out some interim way of
sending and parsing tcl messages using whichever gui toolkit
you prefer. However, it's worth understanding a bit about
why Pd-l2ork has diverged somewhat from the code you'd be
wrapping (in no particular order, and definitely not
exhaustive):<br>
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<div>That's all good info to know, thanks. I'd imagine libpd
would't need to handle *move functions though. Does the dsp
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It does for [inlet~] and [outlet~]<br>
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And for message dispatching [inlet] and [outlet].<br>
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There are also objects like [cnv] and some externals which can use
and report object position in the flow of an object chain.<br>
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<div> I thought only via connections. I'd imagine the gui
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