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<div>On Jan 13, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>>
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Sorry, I don't know quite what you're referring to here.
The only two examples I gave-- $@ and [initbang] wouldn't
change anything in the DSP core.<br>
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<div>I wasn't referring to anything in particular, only in
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Then what do you think of "$@" or [initbang]? Are there good
reasons for them not being in the core? What about infinite undo?
Or symbols that don't cause memory leaks?</div></blockquote><div><br></div>Those would definitely be nice to have. I don't know what $@ refers to, is it the object arguments as a list?<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
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<div>On Jan 13, 2014, at 1:54 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>>
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<div>Yes. Everything is still there. It merely abstracts sending
messages and midi into and out of the libpd instance. I don't
see why we couldn't do the same with what's needed by an
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Hm... I didn't realize that. That being the case, you could
certainly go ahead and figure out some interim way of sending and
parsing tcl messages using whichever gui toolkit you prefer.
However, it's worth understanding a bit about why Pd-l2ork has
diverged somewhat from the code you'd be wrapping (in no particular
order, and definitely not exhaustive):<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>[snip]<br><div><br></div><div>That's all good info to know, thanks. I'd imagine libpd would't need to handle *move functions though. Does the dsp graph rely on positioning? I thought only via connections. I'd imagine the gui wrapper should only worry about positioning and simply update those changes when saving. </div></div><br><div>
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