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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/03/2014 02:44 AM, Billy Stiltner
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        <div>seems like there was something about the way i made the
          wave editor that worked,i&nbsp; never tried overflowing the the
          things and my method is a hack of the pd file @xensynth and
          the lfo editor, otherwise holler at Mike Booth ala mmb.<br>
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    You can make a wave editor.&nbsp; You just cannot make a wave editor that
    has the tools typically found in commercial wave editors, unless you
    systematically ignore the modern/sophisticated GUI systems which
    make commercial wave editors efficient to use.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Pierre
          Massat <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                  <div>Hi Jonathan,<br>
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                  I found it following this path : help for [tabwrite]
                  --&gt; More_Info --&gt; all_about_arrays --&gt; Common
                  uses for arrays in Pd<br>
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                Bummer, I thought somebody would come up with a secret
                table manipulation technique that would make this
                statement true...<br>
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              Cheers,<br>
              <br>
              Pierre.<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-02 19:33 GMT+01:00
                Jonathan Wilkes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                #X text 12 115 HELP_PATCH_AUTHORS
                                Updated for Pd 0.38-2. Jonathan Wilkes<br>
                                revised the patch to conform to the PDDP
                                template for Pd version 0.42.<br>
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                                I did the refactoring of that patch, but
                                I'm not sure who wrote what you're
                                quoting.<br>
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                                I'd say that statement is false and
                                should be removed.<br>
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                                -Jonathan<br>
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                                              March 2, 2014 10:47 AM,
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                                                          <div>Dear
                                                          list,<br>
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                                                          I am working
                                                          on a small
                                                          patch which
                                                          stores simple
                                                          events in a
                                                          table to
                                                          trigger sounds
                                                          later on. <br>
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                                                          I would like
                                                          to be able to
                                                          edit the
                                                          content of my
                                                          table easily,
                                                          which requires
                                                          scrolling it,
                                                          zooming in,
                                                          and eventually
                                                          editing the
                                                          content.<br>
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                                                          I have found
                                                          away of
                                                          scrolling the
                                                          content, but
                                                          it is very
                                                          slow with
                                                          relatively big
                                                          tables (hem,
                                                          even with a
                                                          table with 20
                                                          000
                                                          samples...).
                                                          Please see the
                                                          example
                                                          attached.<br>
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                                                        <div>I have 2
                                                          questions :<br>
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                                                        1) Is there a
                                                        more efficient
                                                        way of doing
                                                        this ? Copying
                                                        only part of the
                                                        content is worse
                                                        (i've tried).<br>
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                                                      2) Can I prevent
                                                      the content of the
                                                      table from
                                                      spilling over the
                                                      table to right of
                                                      the left ? I get
                                                      the same behaviour
                                                      in a GOP, and
                                                      putting a canvas
                                                      next to the table
                                                      to cover it
                                                      doesn't work
                                                      because the table
                                                      content gets
                                                      redrawn on top of
                                                      it.<br>
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                                                    This leads me to a
                                                    more general
                                                    question about
                                                    something i've found
                                                    in the help : <br>
                                                    "5 Wave editing:
                                                    with proper
                                                    manipulation of
                                                    array data, Pd can
                                                    be fully functional
                                                    wave editor,
                                                    complete with
                                                    mouse-clickable
                                                    cut-n-paste,
                                                    pitch-shift, time
                                                    expansion,
                                                    down/upsampling, and
                                                    other tools
                                                    typically found in
                                                    commercial wave
                                                    editors."<br>
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                                                  This has always
                                                  sounded very appealing
                                                  to me, but i wonder
                                                  how realistic this
                                                  statement is... unless
                                                  i'm ignoring 80 % of
                                                  what can be done with
                                                  tables in Pd.<br>
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                                                Cheers,<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Pierre.<br>
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