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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Have you tested pd-l2ork?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Pierre Massat [mailto:pimassat@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 05, 2014 3:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ivica Bukvic; pd-list<br><b>Cc:</b> Cyrille Henry; katja<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PD] Bugs in Pd-Extended in Ubuntu LTS<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Just a quick follow up on this topic. I have just compiled Miller's latest version (0.45-4), and the bug that's crashing X is still there. This time I managed to reproduce it somehow by creating an empty object to make a subpatch and typing "pd m" (and bang it crashed). Same behaviour with the same patch in pd-extended 0.43.4.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>It's super annoying...<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<br><br>Pierre.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>2014-02-25 23:16 GMT+01:00 Ivica Bukvic <<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p><p>Once pd-extended removes unnecessary dependency on pd-utils you will. Until then you will need to uninstall one and install the other.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 25, 2014 4:54 PM, "Pierre Massat" <<a href="mailto:pimassat@gmail.com" target="_blank">pimassat@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Katja, I will try to check if this is a problem with pulse audio. I also have a jackdbus running even when applications supposed to use it are closed (Ardour and Pd in my case).<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Can I install pd-l2ork alongside pd-extended, or do I have to uninstall it first ?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Pierre.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>2014-02-25 22:22 GMT+01:00 Ivica Bukvic <<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p><p>Guys, Can you check if pd-l2ork works OK and please report? We provide native Ubuntu builds (built for 12.04).<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 25, 2014 4:20 PM, "katja" <<a href="mailto:katjavetter@gmail.com" target="_blank">katjavetter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Pierre,<br><br>I'm on Xubuntu 12.04 with Pd-extended 0.44 and have experienced big<br>troubles with Jack too. I only use Jack for complex routings like<br>Skype to Pd or Kdenlive to Pd via PulseAudio+Jack. I got a lot of<br>jackdbus-errors initially, and jack wouldn't restart. Don't know if<br>it's the same issue which you're experiencing. Anyway, it seems that<br>this was about jackd2 writing config files to different places, which<br>can be out of sync under certain conditions. Not sure if this is a<br>correct description but it is my interpretation. Looking at running<br>processes in command htop, I always noticed a jackdbus processing<br>still running when the dbus error was given. Killing the jackdbus<br>process sometimes helped. But in the course of time I've somehow<br>learned how to avoid it at all, by carefully considering the right<br>order of operations when starting processes. I have PulseAudio<br>disabled by default, so I can start Jack first, then the Jack clients,<br>of which PulseAudio may be one. Then eventually the PulseAudio<br>clients. When killing processes, everything in reverse order. I don't<br>like this hocus pocus, but well, I'm happy if it works at all. On<br>Kubuntu I couldn't get PulseAudio to cooperate with Jack.<br><br>Katja<br><br>On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Pierre Massat <<a href="mailto:pimassat@gmail.com" target="_blank">pimassat@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> I just checked again and to to sum up I have three problems :<br>> - errors with JACK (and instability),<br>> - X crashes sometimes when typing stuff in an object box,<br>> - and Alsa throwing this error in the console : "ALSA output error (restart<br>> failed): Broken pipe" (though the sound does work).<br>><br>> Pierre.<br>><br>><br>> 2014-02-25 21:23 GMT+01:00 Cyrille Henry <<a href="mailto:ch@chnry.net" target="_blank">ch@chnry.net</a>>:<br>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Le 25/02/2014 21:03, Roman Haefeli a écrit :<br>>><br>>>> On Die, 2014-02-25 at 19:50 +0100, Pierre Massat wrote:<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>> I have installed Pd-extended from the Ubuntu repos. It seems to be the<br>>>>> same version as the one available on <a href="http://puredata.info" target="_blank">puredata.info</a> (0.43.4).<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> I am pretty sure there is no package called 'pd-extended' in the Ubuntu<br>>>> repositories. Probably you got it from Hans' ppa or from<br>>>> <a href="http://apt.puredata.info" target="_blank">apt.puredata.info</a>?<br>>>><br>>>> Also, is your Ubuntu 12.04 up-to-date? Your bug description sounds like<br>>>> an intel driver bug in 13.04 or 13.10 that has been discussed a lot on<br>>>> this list. I thought this bug has been fixed for quite a while.<br>>><br>>> i still have some problem. (i'm on 13.10). X can crash specially if i have<br>>> object that are not created on the patch.<br>>> c<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Roman<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> <a href="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at" target="_blank">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -><br>>>> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br>>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> <a href="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at" target="_blank">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -><br>>> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br>><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <a href="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at" target="_blank">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -><br>> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br>><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><a href="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at" target="_blank">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>