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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/10/2014 12:56 PM, IOhannes m
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      <pre wrap="">On 03/10/2014 05:38 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
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        <pre wrap="">Additionally, IOhannes also knows that Miller wants the [initbang] functionality in the form of a backwards-compatible [loadbang] which takes arguments.
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thanks for the insights.
i didn't know that i knew *that*. i would therefore be interested how i
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    Sorry, I assumed you read the relevant publicly available thread
    that has messages you authored weaving through it:<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.multimedia.puredata.devel/8611">http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.multimedia.puredata.devel/8611</a><br>
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    That's from 2010.&nbsp; For a patch you submitted in 2006.<br>
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    We're currently in 2014.<br>
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    That such a feature would take nearly a decade to get into the
    professed "core" (and still isn't included, in any form) is a
    symptom of an unhealthy development process.&nbsp; An unhealthy
    development process keeps potential developers from participating
    and improving the software, which is a vicious cycle.<br>
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    -Jonathan<br>
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