<div dir="ltr"><div>Hey, a few things have made sense to me now.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The minimum and maximum values in PD are in a 100 / 1 ratio. This ratio is important and it&#39;s a key in the formula. In the sense that if you have 10 and 1000, the plotting curve looks always the same. So if you forget about the minimum and maximum values, you can just work with this ratio variable.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Something like:</div><div><br></div><div>[expr exp($f1 * log(ratio))]<br></div><div><br></div><div>Now this will give you a value from 1 to the value of &quot;ratio&quot;. And I thought it&#39;d be cool to scale it from 0 to 1.</div>
<div><br></div><div>One thing that annoys me a lot is that the log function will not allow you to start at zero. So I wanted to tweak this in order to make it so.</div><div><br></div><div>Not hard, something like this does the trick.</div>
<div><br></div><div>[expr exp($f1 * log(ratio) - 1) / (ratio -1)]<br></div><div><br></div><div>You can always rescale this by multiplying to any factor and summing to a constant.</div><div><br></div><div>cheers</div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-18 19:27 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">cool, looks great<div><br></div><div>by the way, this guy was helping me out with the math, so I don&#39;t really know what&#39;s going on that well.  </div><div><br></div><div>Apparently he couldn&#39;t figure out the slider height variable. And Roman didn&#39;t use that too.</div>

<div><br></div><div>The formula was behaving the same as Roman&#39;s patch, but we simplified the formula now so it&#39;s more related to Roman&#39;s patch.</div><div><br></div><div>It&#39;s something like this now</div>
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<br></div><div>[expr~ min_$0 * exp($v1 * log(max_$0 / min_$0))]</div><div><br></div><div>then doing the inverse is not too complicated, just use &quot;ln&quot;</div><div><br></div><div>I still have not much clue about the original code, the slider height variable and other things, but, anyhow, these were the equations I was looking for ;)</div>

<div><br></div><div>cheers</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-18 18:32 GMT-03:00 Jonathan Wilkes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span>:<div>
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    <div>On 03/18/2014 04:05 PM, Alexandre
      Torres Porres wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">and as I was checking before, not too far from
        raising to the power of 0.25 (thicker line in the graph from the
        picture attached)</div>
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    Btw-- here&#39;s what that patch looks like in Pd-l2ork (attached).<br>
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    The array rectangle is orange because it&#39;s selected.  I also changed
    the size of the garray by click-dragging with the mouse.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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    -Jonathan</font></span><div><div><br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-18 16:48 GMT-03:00 Alexandre
          Torres Porres <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">the solution is as I thought, to just invert
              the given formula in the code. Someone helped me with the
              math, is something like 
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              <div>expr ln($f1 / 1.27) / (((log(127 / 1.27) / 1.27)) *
                0.01)<br>
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              <div>here&#39;s a patch attached</div>
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              <div>I&#39;m finally gonna check what kind of curve this thing
                gives :)</div>
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              <div>Thanks everyone</div>
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              <div>Cheers</div>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-18 5:13 GMT-03:00
                Jonathan Wilkes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span>:
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                                No, the code I ported is from
                                vslider_set and vslider_draw_update
                                (might be different in Vanilla).<br>
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                                In vslider_bang, math is done to output
                                the proper value.  Without looking at
                                the code I would have guessed
                                vslider_bang simply outputs a stored
                                value like [float] does.  Then just do
                                math to set the slider position or
                                calculate a new stored value from mouse
                                input.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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                                    -Jonathan<br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Monday,
                                            March 17, 2014 1:21 AM,
                                            Alexandre Torres Porres &lt;<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>&gt;
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                                                <div>Hi Roman. This is
                                                  turning out trickier
                                                  than I thought. A
                                                  friend explained the
                                                  code to me and got to
                                                  the following
                                                  equation, with min/max
                                                  values as 0.01 and 1
                                                  respectively.</div>
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                                                <div>[expr 0.01 *
                                                  exp((log(1 / 0.01) /
                                                  0.01) * $f1 * 0.01)]<br>
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                                                <div>For what I&#39;ve
                                                  checked, it seems to
                                                  behave like your
                                                  patch. But it doesn&#39;t
                                                  do the trick I&#39;m
                                                  looking for yet. I
                                                  sent a patch earlier,
                                                  and I&#39;m sending it
                                                  back again.</div>
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                                                <div>The goal is to
                                                  connect a linear
                                                  slider to an [expr]
                                                  (with this so called
                                                  &quot;log&quot; function) and
                                                  then to another linear
                                                  slider. The idea then
                                                  is that this second
                                                  slider behaves as one
                                                  that was set as being
                                                  &quot;log&quot;.</div>
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                                                <div>In the patch
                                                  attached I was able to
                                                  emulate it poorly with
                                                  [pow 0.25], but that
                                                  was before reaching
                                                  the list. See that if
                                                  I use this expr
                                                  function from the code
                                                  or your patch it
                                                  presents quite a
                                                  different behavior.</div>
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                                                <div>maybe it is some
                                                  sort of inversion of
                                                  this equation, not
                                                  sure. Apparently this
                                                  code converts the
                                                  &quot;log&quot; function values
                                                  to linear and I&#39;m
                                                  hoping to get the
                                                  exact opposite. Got
                                                  it?</div>
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                                                <div>Thanks for looking
                                                  into this</div>
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                                                <div>2014-03-12 4:38
                                                  GMT-03:00 Roman
                                                  Haefeli <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow">reduzent@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
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                                                    <div>On Don,
                                                      2014-03-06 at
                                                      21:37 -0300,
                                                      Alexandre Torres
                                                      Porres wrote:<br>
                                                      &gt; hi folks, out
                                                      of curiosity,
                                                      what&#39;s the exact
                                                      log function used
                                                      in the<br>
                                                      &gt; slider? I&#39;d
                                                      like to emulate
                                                      it.<br>
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                                                    I am not sure, if
                                                    this is what you
                                                    want. It converts
                                                    the incoming linear<br>
                                                    range between 0 and
                                                    1 to a logarithmic
                                                    range specified by
                                                    $1 and $2,<br>
                                                    respectively by the
                                                    second and third
                                                    inlet. They behave
                                                    like the lower<br>
                                                    and upper bound
                                                    specified in the
                                                    [vslider]/[hslider]
                                                    classes.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <a rel="nofollow">https://raw.github.com/reduzent/netpd2-patches/master/abs/rh_scalelog.pd</a><br>
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                                                        Roman<br>
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