<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt">I wouldn't use [init]. The same functionality is available using [loadbang] connected to a storage object ([float], [list], message box, etc.). And [loadbang] is available in all versions of Pd, so your patch will be more portable.<br><br>The [init] object's args make patching _slightly_ easier. The inlet makes it more expressive, but a subtle feature of [loadbang] is that it's easier to spot because it's always at the top of a chain. Also "init" as class name is problematic-- [float 6] "inits" to 6, after all, but does not output a message upon initialising. I suppose the idea is to be consistent with iemgui "init", which itself is obscure and requires the user to bring up a dialog window to understand how the patch works. (Not to mention it clashes with
[initbang], where "init" has a different meaning altogether.)<br><br>The only other potential advantage is that if you have [init] fanning out to several objects, you can test your patch by simply by connecting [bng] to the inlet of [init]. With [loadbang] you would have to create a [bng] and then connect it to every object that [loadbang] connects to. But at least in Pd-l2ork you can either:<br><br>a) click [loadbang] with the mouse to output a bang. (This is how Max/MSP solves this problem, too.)<br>b) select all the objects to which you'd like to connect, then draw a connection from [bng] to one of them. In Pd-l2ork this will make a connection from the outlet to all of the selected objects.<br><br>-Jonathan<br><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica
Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Monday, March 31, 2014 10:23 AM, "puredata@11h11.com" <puredata@11h11.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container">init_class = class_new(gensym("init"), (t_newmethod)init_new,<br> (t_method)init_free, sizeof(t_init), 0, A_GIMME, 0);<br><br> class_addcreator((t_newmethod)init_new, gensym("ii"), A_GIMME, 0);<br><br>Will continue to test Pd-L2Ork (I had some difference with pd-extended <br>regarding -path (not all my abstractions were found)). Will report back.<br><br>BTW, I never used the PPA thing on LaunchPad, but it would be nice for <br>installing / updating Pd-L2Ork.<br><br>à+<br><br>_______________________________________________<br><a ymailto="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at" href="mailto:Pd-list@iem.at">Pd-list@iem.at</a> mailing list<br>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a
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