<div dir="ltr"><div>> <span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">Wow, you keep beating that horse after its dead</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">> for quite a while by </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">now</span></div>
<div><br></div><div>> <span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">I don't think this </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">debate is going lead anywhere</span></div>
<div><br></div>please, cope with my lack of knowledge in computer science/languages jargons. All I'm doing is asking to learn more about it and get what you guys mean. I'm not debating, since I'm even stating I couldn't do it when I say I probably won't be able to grasp all the details and will just take the word for it...<div>
<br></div><div>So relax, you keep misjudging before reading more carefully. I'm not looking for a debate, and I'm also saying I'm cool with Pd's workaround myself, so there's no personal frustration. As I said, I'm not even thinking about me as my concerns come from luring people into using Pd, while I'm already sold for it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Anyway, having said that, I'd appreciate if anyone could help me understand Pd's structure and developing issues. </div><div><br></div><div>For instance, I don't think I understand what "<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">inconsistencies" mean in this context.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">cheers</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-04-03 17:03 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:reduzent@gmail.com" target="_blank">reduzent@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="">On Don, 2014-04-03 at 16:13 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:<br>
> thanks for explaining it all<br>
><br>
><br>
> > imagine trying to design something like that<br>
> > which is also backwards compatible with the<br>
> > crude namespacing tools that already exist in Pd.<br>
> > It's not possible<br>
><br>
><br>
> ok, here's where I'm a bit confuse. You're not saying it'd be<br>
> impossible to make messages inherit the $0 value, are you?<br>
<br>
</div>Wow, you keep beating that horse after its dead for quite a while by<br>
now. It is _not_at_all_ about technical difficulties (probably it is<br>
indeed difficult, I don't really know). It's about breaking consistency.<br>
Expanding arguments of the parent is different from expanding to<br>
elements of incoming messages.<br>
<br>
While I understand your frustration to some degree, I don't think this<br>
debate is going lead anywhere, simply because of that fact that I don't<br>
believe any dev will deliberately introduce inconsistencies just for the<br>
sake of convenience. And yes, I understand the convenience of $0<br>
expanding to the canvas-local ID and yes, it would probably make<br>
patching simpler. I am very much with you in this respect.<br>
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Roman<br>
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