<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>I'd be happy to take this opportunity to find a better email service provider than Yahoo.  But there isn't a viable alternative outside of riseup.net (which wants me to pledge my opposition to a "vanguard strategy for revolution" as a ToS, strongly implying that there is at least one moron there wielding an alarming amount of influence).</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Any other free webmail is subject to
 the same or similar destructive policies, and universities don't accept outsiders.  So it seems I'm stuck.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>-Jonathan<br><br></span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:57 AM,
 IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig) <noc@iem.at> wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA256<br><br>dear Pd junkies,<br><br><br><br>recently, yahoo (and later aol) has implemented a strict<br>spam-preventing scheme, that basically prevents mailinglists like<br>yours truly from doing their work [1].<br>this scheme basically disallows re-distribution of emails from people<br>with yahoo-accounts.<br><br>you (esp. if you are using yahoo yourself, but gmail users might be<br>affected as well) might have noticed, that some mailing-list posts<br>have gone missing (esp. when originating from other yahoo users).<br>a possibly missing email can be found at [2].<br><br>this is *not* a hostile attempt from our side (your faithful iem-team)<br>to censor the mailinglist(s).<br><br>we are currently investigating ways to mitigate the problem [3], but<br>haven't found an
 acceptable /and/ working technical solution yet.<br><br>if possible, we would like to suggest all posters using<br>yahoo-addresses, to consider switching to another (free)mail-provider<br>- - if only for the purpose of posting emails to innocent mailinglists.<br><br>if we do not find a solution fast, we might be forced to *temporarily*<br>disable posting from yahoo-addresses (but will try avoid this step as<br>long as possible, and if forced to use it keep it as short as possible).<br><br><br>yours,<br><br>fgasmdr<br>IOhannes<br><br><br>[1]<br><a href="http://thehackernews.com/2014/04/yahoos-new-dmarc-policy-destroys-every.html" target="_blank">http://thehackernews.com/2014/04/yahoos-new-dmarc-policy-destroys-every.html</a><br>[2 <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2014-05/106991.html" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2014-05/106991.html</a><br>[3] <a
 href="http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=17891458" target="_blank">http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=17891458</a><br><br><br><br>- -- <br>IEM - network operation center<br>mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:noc@iem.at" href="mailto:noc@iem.at">noc@iem.at</a><br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>Version: GnuPG v1<br>Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - <a href="http://www.enigmail.net/"
 target="_blank">http://www.enigmail.net/</a><br><br>iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJThIvKAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4N3gP/0fcSMAI6IreSxcDlqWnL8h0<br>iNXIf0hMZGSNf6hcSN4zfgzNoUFtPV+f6HEcIXdYK6OR8Yymwgi31orunX6YWl1a<br>xQYxgYsQ2L7a/JTvZSkgO2/HPtuGT83fzf9P43eJlSt47wVRloEphOe0tts4iObU<br>NGsFHk/FUXfzGvmQA3RRFUFu+6GVsDA27EdHuJybBiMfbfL9WEqIcps9fvMF3ck5<br>ujw9SnnLKWqGVp2qImU4CW8DvbJr9WNzHQKNv/qAqYSYJepI7bqDUZuTR/+gjHzF<br>PYKuu1g8+vRwemGkZJ9g+YSrt7cpG6xS8MOIFRmzNcjckh4BdRNtRqT0gEfpLjEd<br>Qy7aYHpBbZVRDCJPIGPFhKScvKHjWEyNs5DWQ1EyVqt7240wnVQCC6KtIKtEOs1F<br>E6LS62p3pg9dwT67fqEaMVU6VPN5/UFAm0478paICL73PwT2YcYDh6mf7Rri9io4<br>2XAFIi1QRqv4Arn87x323dn8ihXQN2hz2PZQkY9DXlN6CEMt8AOZe7oVmnWWrMEt<br>6rvj9vKnjT6Odj+cd0Ny/OWGq3nMP9ARLzQyoFtJzheM3ASvROGGqT+RJuHKLiBM<br>hZ2p0Q6dbQeLsx37f7xdNhlK0CQgUjwJjD6kggLcCXpu5IFehZniwmvIyTok6QB+<br>qrWUMA2lNFl8GeVHBiDr<br>=JzQK<br>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Pd-announce mailing list<br><a
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