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      I disagree. Your example lists what? 2 more developers? I'm
      talking about "developers" as in people working the C code, build
      scripts, tcl/tk etc aka people who could, theoretically, help push
      out a new Pd-extended release. True, we have plenty of people
      working on externals, but this is a problem for someone who can go
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      <div>I still maintain that the number of low level developers to
        overall users (non-developers) is relatively low.<br>
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    That's true in nearly any piece of user-facing software.  But
    compared to other user-facing software, Pd seems to have a fairly
    large number of users with a working knowledge of C,
    building/compiling, etc.  Enough that I can think of at least 13 for
    whom there is proof just by what I've read from them on the user
    list.  But there are probably many more than that.<br>
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              <div>On Sep 23, 2014, at 6:00 AM, <a
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                  true to me.  There's actually a surplus of developers
                  and development energy-- I count two implementations
                  of presets in the last year or two (in Pd-l2ork and
                  the Chocolate et Coffee lib) which are in addition to
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                      <div>Dan Wilcox</div>
                      <div>@danomatika</div>
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