<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span>Pd-l2ork has two internal objects for state-saving called [preset_hub] and [preset_node]. I haven't used them a ton but they seem to handle abstractions and locality gracefully (even without the need for $0).</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">As far as data structures, my changes hopefully make them easier to use. You can create scalars in object boxes. You can update their appearance by sending messages to
[draw]. If you just want a single scalar to visualize something, you can essentially treat it as a kind of simplified 2d Gem. In that case you don't even have to understand about or even use gpointers.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">-Jonathan<br><span></span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">
<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:36 AM, i go bananas <hard.off@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv8411093895"><div dir="ltr">something i have thought for a LONG time, and i guess a few others have too. <br><br>They are just too hard to use. <div><br></div><div>but they keep popping up in updates to pd, so it seems they are still being worked on.</div><div><br></div><div>couldn't that work be put to better use?</div><div><br></div><div>like, for instance, on a native PD state saving system???<br><br><br></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br><a href="" class="removed-link" ymailto="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at">Pd-list@lists.iem.at</a> mailing list<br>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="" class="removed-link" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br><br><br></div>
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