<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span>Well, Miller has recently added the "text" field to [struct], so he does work on them, too.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>-Jonathan<br></span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica
Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:59 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika@yahoo.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3981572058"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><span>Pd-l2ork has two internal objects for state-saving called [preset_hub] and [preset_node]. I haven't used them a ton but they seem to handle abstractions and locality gracefully (even without the need for $0).</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue,
Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">As far as data structures, my changes hopefully make them easier to use. You can create scalars in object boxes. You can update their appearance by sending messages to
[draw]. If you just want a single scalar to visualize something, you can essentially treat it as a kind of simplified 2d Gem. In that case you don't even have to understand about or even use gpointers.</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">-Jonathan<br><span></span></div><div class="yiv3981572058qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display:block;" class="yiv3981572058yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,
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<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:36 AM, i go bananas <hard.off@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="yiv3981572058y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3981572058"><div dir="ltr">something i have thought for a LONG time, and i guess a few others have too. <br><br>They are just too hard to use. <div><br></div><div>but they keep popping up in updates to pd, so it seems they are still being worked on.</div><div><br></div><div>couldn't that work be put to better use?</div><div><br></div><div>like, for instance, on a native PD state saving system???<br><br><br></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br><a href="" rel="nofollow" class="yiv3981572058removed-link">Pd-list@lists.iem.at</a> mailing list<br>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="" rel="nofollow"
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