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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/16/2014 10:55 PM, Alexandre
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<div dir="ltr">my two cents is that the data structures are still
a bit buggy to work on. Just hoped they'd be more stable, other
than that, can't relate to the commotion, cheers <br>
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What kinds of bugs are you running into?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-11-13 13:45 GMT-02:00 Jonathan
Wilkes via Pd-list <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div><span>It's certainly possible. There's a Pd-l2ork
script for creating a "vanilla" tarball with the
l2ork changes in it, so I guess you could try
dropping the src and extra from that into libpd's
pure-data directory and see what happens.</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On
Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:38 AM, i go
bananas <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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what's the status of having a
'libpd' for </span><span
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is that possible? </span></div>
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for going off topic...but it is
something i have wanted to ask for
ages. </span></div>
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<div>that's kinda what i
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<div>but really, come
on...pd's interface is it's
weakest point. When miller
started working on the data
structures, libpd and all
that didn't even exist. But
now, we can just farm out
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Compared to the amount of
effort it takes to learn
them, and how effective they
actually are, data
structures are just too
un-economical. </div>
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<div>in nearly 15 years of
their existence, i think i
can still count on both
hands how many good
implementations of them i
have seen.<br clear="none">
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look, i LOVE pd and couldn't
live without it....but it
just seems like any minute
spent on data structures is
a minute that could be way
better spent on other
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at 3:54 AM, IOhannes m
zmölnig <span dir="ltr"><<a
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if i understand
correctly, "data
structures" have been
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for writing Pd (as
opposed to continue
with max), so i think
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