<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417816891015_3607">I think that's a good idea.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417816891015_3606"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417816891015_3605">But then Pd Vanilla aficionados might complain that to use cyclone they would be forced to also install the pddp library for [pddplink] and [helplink], because those objects do not ship with Pd Vanilla. Otherwise they would end up with a lot of broken objects in those help patches.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417816891015_3935"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417816891015_5332" dir="ltr">All the little Pd libraries in Debian don't help this problem, because not every GNU/Linux distribution uses apt. (Nor does OSX or Windows, for that matter.)</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417816891015_6564" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417816891015_5905" dir="ltr">Also, I believe Hans emailed awhile back asking if I'd do the work of removing the PDDP template boilerplate from the tutorial revisions I did. He wanted me to leave only the [pd META] subpatch, because that's evidently the only part Miller wanted to add to Vanilla.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417816891015_5909" dir="ltr"><br> Ivica-- have Fred Jan's patches been applied to L2ork? If not, I'm happy to test/commit them.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1417816891015_9300" dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-Jonathan<br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Friday, December 5, 2014 4:03 PM, Ivica Bukvic <ico@vt.edu> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv7956168629"><div dir="ltr">Why not simply use cyclone help patches provided in pd-l2ork that already conform to the pddp standard?</div>
<div class="yiv7956168629gmail_quote">On Dec 5, 2014 3:59 PM, "Fred Jan Kraan" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:fjkraan@xs4all.nl" target="_blank" href="mailto:fjkraan@xs4all.nl">fjkraan@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv7956168629gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
Recently I started on improving the help-patches of the cyclone library.<br>
The idea is to convert then all to the format used by the pd-core<br>
objects in pd-vanilla, which is also the standard with Pd-l2ork and try<br>
to improve them a bit on the way.<br>
<br>
It is part of a larger initiative to fix the remaining problems with the<br>
cyclone suite and improve it on newer platforms, including 64-bit<br>
systems and ARM-architectures.<br>
<br>
Awaiting permission to submit the changes into the SVN-repository (hint,<br>
hint, ...), I collect the help-patches on this page:<br>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://fjkraan.home.xs4all.nl/digaud/puredata/cyclone/index.html">http://fjkraan.home.xs4all.nl/digaud/puredata/cyclone/index.html</a>.<br>
(Already at 30+ of 150+, so ~20% :-) ).<br>
<br>
Remarks on these patches or on cyclone objects in general are welcome.<br>
<br>
Fred Jan<br>
<br>
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