<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418258959047_51059">Keep in mind that even with the perfect design, you'd still be packaging a lot of binaries that would read like this to the user:</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418258959047_51060" dir="ltr">douglib - library of binaries written by a guy named doug</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418258959047_51067" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418258959047_51063" dir="ltr">-Jonathan<br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:09 PM, Simon Wise <simonzwise@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container">On 06/12/14 20:53, Fred Jan Kraan wrote:<br><br>> The other main distribution tool is rpm. It might be interesting to know<br>> how much of the "Linux-market" uses either deb or rpm.<br><br>perhaps more interesting ... how much of the multimedia producer and pd <br>developer community uses linux which is neither deb based nor source based like <br>gentoo, and also isn't a multimedia distribution which includes pd packages. My <br>guess would be that a lot of the remainder would be using fedora in the context <br>of an institution, have IT support and a standard institution wide install.<br><br>Alien will translate to rpm format if you wish, and of course the debian <br>repository has complete sources and build systems for the packages and all their <br>dependencies (and better than daily builds alongside the dependencies, on many <br>hardware and kernel combinations). Alien translates both ways. there is a debian <br>package available, and it seems available for rpm based systems also .. see <br><a href="" class="removed-link" target="_blank">http://joeyh.name/code/alien/</a><br><br>> For Windows and OSX, there is no ready made solution yet. But other<br>> software packages have a cross-platform package distribution system; the<br>> examples I know are perl (ActiveState) and cygwin. But is probably not<br>> trival to build or adapt something for Pd.<br><br>a packaging system is a long long way from easy, somethinng that does what <br>debian does is a truly vast undertaking ... unless within the context of some <br>bigger packaging system then your only choice is source distribution, with <br>pre-built binaries with the most generic options for the most common platforms <br>... which is what pd has available now. Keeping all the external libraries built <br>is a huge task, l2ork picks a most common and useful set, and distributes them <br>directly ... but they are linux users and only have resources for doing so for <br>linux (they have said they would welcome any efforts from the other user <br>communities to build for their platforms), pd-extended is a valiant attempt to <br>cater for more, it is a huge and cumbersome system because of that ... while <br>there is a lot of interest in downloading binaries for Windows and OSX there is <br>generally almost no interest from those communities in actually doing the work <br>to prepare and make available those binaries.<br><br>Simon<br><br>_______________________________________________<br><a href="" class="removed-link" ymailto="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at">Pd-list@lists.iem.at</a> mailing list<br>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="" class="removed-link" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>