<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418742334703_184404">Well, you can peruse the tracker's open patches to get a sense of whether you can (or if it's worth your time to try). Keep in mind the Pd-l2ork gui prefs code started out as a patch specifically written as a clean, small patch to get into Vanilla/Extended.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418742334703_200375" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418742334703_184406" dir="ltr">-Jonathan<br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:04 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2755930375"><div><div dir="ltr">Sorry, I didn;t mean to sound like I'm griping. The nature of the question was more "if we apply clean, small patches to vanilla, could we get some of Han's updates in so they aren't lost to non Pd-l2ork users". I'm in the middle of writing my thesis right now, but getting into real Pd development again is on my list when I'm finally done with it.</div><div class="yiv2755930375gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv2755930375yqt6319819673" id="yiv2755930375yqt88421"><div class="yiv2755930375gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="" class="removed-link" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="yiv2755930375gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<div>I like how I explicitly asked to not hear that "Pd-l2ork
has that" and yet that's the response I got. I already knew
this anyway from the sample screenshots you were posting when
you were implementing it. (Looks great BTW)</div>
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Yeah, I know, it was 100% willful snark on my part. It's kind of
like you were asking, "Is there a way to do X, while satisfying my
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Anyway, did you look at the code? It's done in tcl/tk, and it does
not depend on tkpath. So if you don't want to duplicate all the
work I already did, you can fairly easily port that back to Pd
Vanilla. There might be a few API differences in accessing the
audio backend, but there are small and I don't mind helping make
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Also, I specifically did everything in tcl/tk so that the patch
would be as simple as possible. It shouldn't even require a
recompile. Now, I haven't looked at Ivica's changes that added
persistence. But all versions of Pd have the same prefs-saving code
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<div>Also, if you didn't know, why respond? :P</div>
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Because the answer to your question ultimately depends on whether
what you come up with fits the unspoken yet stringent HIG standards
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But that doesn't mean that code which does _exactly_ what you're
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<div>On 12/15/2014 06:21 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:<br clear="none">
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scenario, I hope we can find a way to bring some of
the Pd-extended UI changes into vanilla, such as the
pixel perfect sizing across platforms, an option for
the extended coloring (graytones) etc. Before anyone
says “Pd-Lork has that”, I’m just wondering if it’s
feasible to bring in some of the work Hans did after
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In answer to your question: I don't know.<br clear="none">
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Having answered that...<br clear="none">
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Pd-l2ork has gui theme presets for Vanilla, Inverted
Vanilla, Pd-extended, Commodore 64, Strongbad's Compy,
and a few others. There's also an interface to make a
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