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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hello list,<br>
<br>
Here my two cents.<br>
<br>
From PD user POV, I can say that I LOVE pd-vanilla. Mainly beacuse
I love almost every vanilla-"thing". Just a matter of philosophy.
You have the base system that you can extend following your needs.<br>
<br>
But, there are at least two things that makes pd-extended a
desirable choice (at least for ME):<br>
1. Intallation on a new machine is almost a matter of few clicks.
Im my home PC, that's not a problem, but when you are in a tight
scheduling, that can make the difference.<br>
2. When I work on PD, after hours of patching, I find the
pd-extended patch rendering UI less tiring than pd-vanilla's one.
I'm not the "eye-candy" guy, but with the patch rendering of
pd-vanilla, after a while, I've some difficulties in identify
objects at first sight and stuff like that (I know, maybe it's
just me :) ).<br>
<br>
Based on this two "requisites" and recalling other posts in this
thread, _my_ ideal scenario is the following.<br>
1. Pd-vanilla with the patch rendering of pd-extended (I have no
idea of the amount of work needed to obtain this, maybe someone
has the answer).<br>
2. A BINARY repository, or whatever, that provides a simple way to
select and install the externels that I need without go to each
externals developer website, and download, compile, ... .<br>
<br>
The number (2) seems to be the most critical step. At this point,
questions come:<br>
1. Every external works as-is with pd-vanilla?<br>
2. It's clear that the most "efficient" (?) externals repository
must be platform-based. For example, the most intuitive way to
install things for an Ubuntu user is to fire up apt/synaptic ad
click on this and that and click install. But from a developer
point of view that means you have to create a repository for
Ubuntu users, a repo for Fedora, a repo for OSX, for WIN, and so
on and so forth. I think this strategy can be very
developer-hungry :) (i.e. one or more mainter for each repo?).<br>
Another "ideal" scenario is to have a pd internal packaging system
(i.e. a pd menu item called "extensions" that pops up a window in
which you can chose the extension to install for your PLATFORM).
Hummm... it seems a LOT of work for this! :)<br>
A trade-off can be a web page, with binary download link. The page
can be generated automatically, and the duty of the mainters is to
compile the extensions for different platforms and put those "on
the website".<br>
<br>
I will be happy to work with anyone who wants to collaborate :)<br>
<br>
Ceers<br>
<br>
Alessio<br>
<br>
On 17/12/2014 17:08, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hello, I'm opening a new thread about the new
direction of discussion with a proper subject title. Perhaps
this will call the attention of other readers.
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<div>I particularly think this is of major interest to everyone.
We're discussing new ways of using the libraries in Pd
Extended into Pd Vanilla, and even a way to bring some of the
Pd-extended UI changes into vanilla.</div>
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<div>Something Miller brought up in the thread was "<i><span
style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Just FYI…. Joe Deken
of </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://newblankets.org/" target="_blank"
style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">newblankets.org</a><span
style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"> is considering
making a repository </span><span
style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">of external objects
compatible with Pd vanilla. I think almost all the</span></i></div>
<i><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">objects in Pd
extended will work with vanilla (and if I find out what </span><span
style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">specific changes
vanilla would need to allow the others, I'd be happy to </span><span
style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">try to provide them).
It seems like maintaining compiled versions of the </span></i><span
style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><i>libs is an easier
thing to do than maintaining all of Pd Extended</i>."</span>
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<div>So, anyone else care to share their two cents?</div>
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<div>cheers</div>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_extra">[CUT]<br>
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