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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/12/2014 06:18, Jonathan Wilkes
via Pd-list wrote:<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1419393162819_5931">Hi list,</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1419393162819_5932" dir="ltr">I've been
investigating other guis as possible replacements for tcl/tk
gui. A few reasons:</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1419393162819_6817" dir="ltr">* tk is slow
to redraw<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1419393162819_6816" dir="ltr">* no
anti-aliasing except on OSX</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1419393162819_8810" dir="ltr">* poor
support for theming</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1419393162819_9154" dir="ltr">* poor
support for standard image formats</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1419393162819_8812" dir="ltr">* binary
alpha channel</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1419393162819_8813" dir="ltr">* limited
control of font properties on canvas<br>
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* lack of proper canvas zooming
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1419393162819_10583" dir="ltr">*
non-standard file save/open dialogs</div>
<div class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1419393162819_9495" dir="ltr">*
lack of common gui-toolkit tools like tooltips and rich text<br
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1419393162819_10584" class="" dir="ltr">*
too much bit-rot in third-party libraries to work around all
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Good point.<br>
In my opinion, graphical stuff requires a lot of effort (in
code/design and, of course, for the portability).<br>
I really *LOVE* the pd (well... I prefer pd-extended :) ) graphical
philosophy: small bocks, no exploding rainbows of color. Simple and
elegant. <br>
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Can be better? Probably. Especially considering the issues presented
by Jonathan. But I think that will be a huge milestone (in terms of
effort). Ok... the modular nature of pd can help a lot in order to
make smooth transitions.<br>
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To the technical side, which tk?<br>
1. JUCE: multiplatform<br>
2. FlowCanvas (now Ganv, <a
href="http://drobilla.net/software/flowcanvas/">http://drobilla.net/software/flowcanvas/</a>):
technically is not a tk, but a widget for Gtkmm, but its a nice
widget for drawing
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"boxes and lines" (cit. Drobilla) stuff.<br>
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Cheers<br>
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Alessio<br>
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