<p dir="ltr">While I don't know much about the draw group yet, it is conceivably possible the order by which inlets are created and depending on what kind they are could have something to do with it.</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 19, 2015 11:11 PM, "Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list" <<a href="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at">pd-list@lists.iem.at</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div>It doesn't look to be much different atm.</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">In fact, I can't even figure out how subpatches actually reorder their inlets and outlets when you add new [inlet] and [outlet] objects inside them. I have an</div><div dir="ltr">object in Pd-l2ork called [draw group], which is essentially just a subpatch</div><div dir="ltr">with an inlet-- to set graphical attributes-- and an outlet-- to receive event</div><div dir="ltr">notifications. Thing is, my extra outlet will appear as the leftmost outlet when I</div><div dir="ltr">load the patch, while my extra inlet will always be the furthest to the right (like</div><div dir="ltr">with the pointer inlet in [append].)</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Looking at the reordering code for inlets vs. outlets, I can't see any obvious</div><div dir="ltr">differences.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-Jonathan<br></div><div><span></span></div> <br><div><br><br></div><div style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Saturday, September 19, 2015 10:50 PM, Matt Barber <<a href="mailto:brbrofsvl@gmail.com" target="_blank">brbrofsvl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I worked on this for a while in 2008. A big part of the problem is that the architecture for first/main inlets is quite different from generic inlets, which do not respond to both signals and messages. [inlet~] does (or at least is supposed to) promote floats to signals, but it won't pass other kinds of messages; and it seemed like too deep a problem to be solved without a pretty serious overhaul. This was a number of years ago and things may have changed since then, but I don't think so (though I'd be glad to be wrong).</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Matt </div></div><div><br clear="none"><div>On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Christof Ressi <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:christof.ressi@gmx.at" target="_blank">christof.ressi@gmx.at</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px"><div>I was wondering about that too! After a quick search in the mailarchives I've found this discussion from 2008: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-06/062895.html" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-06/062895.html</a></div>
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<div><span style="line-height:1.6em">@IOhannes: What's the state now? How difficult would it be to make an [inlet~] external which, for example, passes signals to a left outlet and all messages (also floats!) to a right outlet. Or which passes everything it receives and then you could use [route~] from zexy to separate signals from messages?</span></div>
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<b>Betreff:</b> [PD] getting [inlet~] to accept data</div>
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</span><div>Many objects (ie. [osc~]) have a sort of a hybrid inlet which accepts both signal and data input. However, the [inlet~] object seems to reject data. If I wanted to build an abstraction with an [inlet~] that accepts both signal and data, is there any other way?</div>
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