<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div>It doesn't look to be much different atm.</div><div><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442716673360_3431" dir="ltr">In fact, I can't even figure out how subpatches actually reorder their inlets and outlets when you add new [inlet] and [outlet] objects inside them. I have an</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442716673360_4095" dir="ltr">object in Pd-l2ork called [draw group], which is essentially just a subpatch</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442716673360_3504" dir="ltr">with an inlet-- to set graphical attributes-- and an outlet-- to receive event</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442716673360_3542" dir="ltr">notifications. Thing is, my extra outlet will appear as the leftmost outlet when I</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442716673360_4008" dir="ltr">load the patch, while my extra inlet will always be the furthest to the right (like</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442716673360_4049" dir="ltr">with the pointer inlet in [append].)</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442716673360_4050" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442716673360_4051" dir="ltr">Looking at the reordering code for inlets vs. outlets, I can't see any obvious</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442716673360_4096" dir="ltr">differences.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442716673360_4140" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442716673360_4141" dir="ltr">-Jonathan<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1442716673360_3343"><span></span></div> <br><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Saturday, September 19, 2015 10:50 PM, Matt Barber <brbrofsvl@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6327720883"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv6327720883gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">I worked on this for a while in 2008. A big part of the problem is that the architecture for first/main inlets is quite different from generic inlets, which do not respond to both signals and messages. [inlet~] does (or at least is supposed to) promote floats to signals, but it won't pass other kinds of messages; and it seemed like too deep a problem to be solved without a pretty serious overhaul. This was a number of years ago and things may have changed since then, but I don't think so (though I'd be glad to be wrong).</div><div class="yiv6327720883gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6327720883gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">Matt </div></div><div class="yiv6327720883gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv6327720883gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Christof Ressi <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:christof.ressi@gmx.at" target="_blank" href="mailto:christof.ressi@gmx.at">christof.ressi@gmx.at</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv6327720883gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv6327720883yqt8894060874" id="yiv6327720883yqt31295"><div><div style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px;"><div>I was wondering about that too! After a quick search in the mailarchives I've found this discussion from 2008: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-06/062895.html">http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-06/062895.html</a></div>
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<div><span style="line-height:1.6em;">@IOhannes: What's the state now? How difficult would it be to make an [inlet~] external which, for example, passes signals to a left outlet and all messages (also floats!) to a right outlet. Or which passes everything it receives and then you could use [route~] from zexy to separate signals from messages?</span></div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10.0px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 18. September 2015 um 12:49 Uhr<br clear="none">
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<b>Betreff:</b> [PD] getting [inlet~] to accept data</div>
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</span><div>Many objects (ie. [osc~]) have a sort of a hybrid inlet which accepts both signal and data input. However, the [inlet~] object seems to reject data. If I wanted to build an abstraction with an [inlet~] that accepts both signal and data, is there any other way?</div>
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