<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yiv8212567003"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444873324485_5230"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444873324485_5229" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444873324485_5394" class="yiv8212567003qtdSeparateBR"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444873324485_5543">Will the pd-extended package be versioned as well? In other words is it a <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444873324485_5887" dir="ltr">rolling package release-- always fetching the most recent versions of the <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444873324485_5958" dir="ltr">library packages it contains, or standard release-- tested and released with <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444873324485_5995" dir="ltr">specific versions of the library packages?<br> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444873324485_5393"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444873324485_5395">-Jonathan<br></div></div><div class="yiv8212567003yqt2694107113" id="yiv8212567003yqt30953"></div></div></div></div><div class=".yiv8212567003yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 6:11 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv8212567003y_msg_container"><div id="yiv8212567003"><div>Well, not specifically me as I haven’t contributed code to deken. Versions are currently handled by the filename format: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8212567003" target="_blank" href="https://github.com/pure-data/deken#create-and-upload-a-package">https://github.com/pure-data/deken#create-and-upload-a-package</a><div class="yiv8212567003"><br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"><div class="yiv8212567003"><div class="yiv8212567003">
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<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"><div class="yiv8212567003yqt5419413951" id="yiv8212567003yqt60546"><div><blockquote class="yiv8212567003" type="cite"><div class="yiv8212567003">On Oct 14, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8212567003" ymailto="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="yiv8212567003Apple-interchange-newline" clear="none"><div class="yiv8212567003"><div class="yiv8212567003"><div class="yiv8212567003" style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div class="yiv8212567003" id="yiv8212567003yui_3_16_0_1_1444849428759_14244">Hi Dan,</div><div class="yiv8212567003" id="yiv8212567003yui_3_16_0_1_1444849428759_14243"> How do you handle versioning?</div><div class="yiv8212567003" id="yiv8212567003yui_3_16_0_1_1444849428759_14163"><br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8212567003" dir="ltr" id="yiv8212567003yui_3_16_0_1_1444849428759_14163"><br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"></div><br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"><div class="yiv8212567003qtdSeparateBR"><br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"><br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8212567003yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <div class="yiv8212567003" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv8212567003" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class="yiv8212567003" dir="ltr"> <font class="yiv8212567003" face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 3:18 PM, Dan Wilcox <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8212567003" ymailto="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com">danomatika@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"> </font> </div> <br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"><br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"> <div class="yiv8212567003y_msg_container"><div class="yiv8212567003" id="yiv8212567003"><div class="yiv8212567003">That’s why one idea with deken is to install an “extended” meta package which installs most (if not all) of the libs that came with pd-extended. I don’t think it’s too hard to ask a user to open the plugin and install a single package.<div class="yiv8212567003"><br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8212567003">Also, the cross platform issue will be fixed in time. Thanks for debugging!</div><div class="yiv8212567003"><br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"><div class="yiv8212567003">
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<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"><div class="yiv8212567003"><blockquote class="yiv8212567003" type="cite"><div class="yiv8212567003yqt7964720353" id="yiv8212567003yqtfd99468"><div class="yiv8212567003">On Oct 14, 2015, at 9:22 AM, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8212567003" ymailto="mailto:rolfm@dds.nl" target="_blank" href="mailto:rolfm@dds.nl">rolfm@dds.nl</a> wrote:</div><br class="yiv8212567003Apple-interchange-newline" clear="none"><div class="yiv8212567003"><div class="yiv8212567003"><br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">it looks like the future of pd-extended is going to be 'deken'.<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">what to do then about portability?<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"><br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">i make patches for people who don't know a lot about programming.<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">plus they are on Mac, i'm on Windows.<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">one time downloading the right version of Pdext is enough;<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">i can give them my patches and they just run them.<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">when i make changes, new features: there's no hassle for them.<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"><br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">using Vanilla & deken is something else.<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">declaring a library in the patch is not enough.<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">including the library in the patch-package works only on the same type of OS;<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">Windows & Windows, Mac & Mac, (Linux & Linux?).<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"><br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">one method could be a deken-connected feature to automatically download a declared lib when it's not present.<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">what about updates or changes in a lib in that case?<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"><br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">the organisation of pd-ext somehow included a kind of gate-keeping, which resulted in a stable Pd-system.<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">i'm still using Pdext 42.5 and the included libs a lot (because of the old machines in my installations). the same libs are functional in Pdext 43.4.<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">so one could argue that there's no great need for a portability design. just download everything that's necessary (and available) and it will work for quite some time.<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"><br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">?<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none">rolf<br class="yiv8212567003" clear="none"></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div class="yiv8212567003yqt7964720353" id="yiv8212567003yqtfd67661">
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