<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447437095721_12602">Thanks. That sounds like all the more reason to have this as a Pd patch <br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447437095721_12608">instead. Even if I add a little mechanism to poll the area for changes, it's <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447437095721_12755" dir="ltr">going to be discoverable inside a subpatch. That means if there is trouble, <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447437095721_12791" dir="ltr">any user can open it and inspect the innards.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447437095721_12843" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447437095721_12845" dir="ltr">-Jonathan<br> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447437095721_12600"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447437095721_12560"> <br></div><br><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Friday, November 13, 2015 3:27 PM, katja <katjavetter@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv7795224259"><div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv7795224259gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv7795224259gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv7795224259gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div>hi katja,</div><div dir="ltr">I don't understand that last paragraph. Why would you need to close the <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">array list view for an audio-length array? From what I can tell it's not "live"-- that <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">is, it doesn't automatically update its values to stay in sync with the array.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Normally the list view isn't updated but I've seen cases where Pd hangs when an object writes into an array with open list view. I don't remember the exact conditions. It helped to automatically close the list view before writing again. I could dig into my test patches to find details, but it is a useful option anyhow.<div class="yiv7795224259yqt0414425810" id="yiv7795224259yqtfd67809"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv7795224259yqt0414425810" id="yiv7795224259yqtfd94555"><blockquote class="yiv7795224259gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><span class="yiv7795224259HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"></font></span><div dir="ltr">-Jonathan<br clear="none"></div><div><div class="yiv7795224259h5"><div><span></span></div> <br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Friday, November 13, 2015 4:00 AM, katja <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:katjavetter@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:katjavetter@gmail.com">katjavetter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>That looks good Jonathan. In current array list view the entries are grouped per 1000 and arrows let you switch groups. For 'large' arrays (say one second of audio samples) this is inconvenient. Maybe your patch approach could even provide a better solution, like the option to select a specific range.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>There's also method 'arrayviewclose' which I sometimes (ab)use to close a list view from within a patch. You don't want to try update an audio array list view in real time!<br clear="none"></div><div><div><br clear="none"><div>On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:32 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><span>I don't know. Something like this with the guts hidden?</span></div><div><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div><span>I didn't do the hard stuff, like handling out-of-bounds elements if the <br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>array isn't a multiple of ten-- it's just a prototype.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>So, in that method you and katja are abusing, I can forward the arrayname <br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>as well as the current $0 count. Then I can open the patch and immediately <br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>send a message to the relevant $0- receiver, and the patch will populate the <br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>value table accordingly.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>And then I can get rid of all the arraylistview C/GUI code that's scattered about.</span></div><span><font color="#888888"></font></span><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>-Jonathan<br clear="none"></span></div><div><div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Thursday, November 12, 2015 4:55 PM, Matt Barber <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:brbrofsvl@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:brbrofsvl@gmail.com">brbrofsvl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">A Pd patch with what in it?</div></div><div><div><br clear="none"><div>On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 4:21 PM, katja <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:katjavetter@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:katjavetter@gmail.com">katjavetter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"><div><span>On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com">jancsika@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"></span><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><span>Would you mind if this opened a Pd patch instead of a tk dialog?</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Could be OK if the list is editable, like current array list view.<span><font color="#888888"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888"></font></span><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Katja<br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div><div><div><br clear="none"></div></div></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div><div><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> </div> </div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="none"></div></div>
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